jofish Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 hi, i was just wondering if any of you guys know where to get needle/roller bearing top hats for coilover set-ups? thanks joseph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclejake Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 Are you certain they aren't spherical bearings? I haven't fitted many so it is a genuine question. Regardless, a bearing supply chain should be able to help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike-e Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 SKF bearings or SAECO bearings should be able to help you out http://www.saeco.co.nz/ http://www.skf.com/portal/skf_nz/home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatestben Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 ^ very good advice. We use them a majority of the time, however every so often there's something oddball out there. http://www.aucklandbearings.co.nz/ These guys do some other stz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jofish Posted June 21, 2010 Author Share Posted June 21, 2010 um not sure what the bearings are called sorry, after something similar to these: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatestben Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 Axial Needle bearings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclejake Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 Lordy. Are they mounted into a flexible plate to allow for camber change under comression or am I stuck in Old School suspension design? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jofish Posted June 21, 2010 Author Share Posted June 21, 2010 sweet thanks for your help will try those bearing places Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock-Lee Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 normally stz like that has a rubber mount to take up camber/whatever angle strut change. A couple of cars ive played with have had somthing similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testament Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 131 is similar to that I've been trying to get my head around how coilovers are supposed to go for a while though. like in the above setup the spring is mounted to the body pretty much and the top is fixed apart from the rotation (from the needle thrust bearing). and the geometry changes in the angle of the shock are taken up in the rubber mount. now in coilovers does the spring seat normally mount to the bottom of the spherical bearing? and ALL of the load goes through the bearing and the top hat to the body? rather than the srping mounting to the body and transferring the load directly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblegoose Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 mine are bolted though the spherical bearing and all the load is transferred though there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclejake Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Agreed. All the ones I have seen take the entire suspesion load on the spherical bearing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyBreeze Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Yeah not really sure in the point of these when running a spherical bearing in the top hat like most camber plates. Anyone know why one would run them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidz Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Hey mate had a similar problem with my cortina. If you go to stocks they sell a bearing tophat that will do the trick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachlander Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 ^ shit your helpful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85_z31 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 It could be worth looking in to the USA made "Ground Control Camber plates" they specifically advertise the following from their website "The Ground Control camber/caster plate uses an unconventional method for supporting the car. Every other camber plate, both US and Chinese (Japanese and Australian are usually made in China), uses a single bearing to support the side loads and the weight of the car. The Ground Control camber/caster plate uses one articulating bearing to locate the strut shaft only, and a completely seperate bearing to support the weight of the car around the central bearing, and having no contact or influence on the rating of the central bearing." I believe these are the only Camber plates available that don't use the conventional "spherical bearing only" design. I think some coilover brands have the needle roller bearings as pictured above or additional washers that at greased up to reduce bind in the coil over shock assembly http://www.ground-control-store.com/pro ... php/CA=229 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Yeah not really sure in the point of these when running a spherical bearing in the top hat like most camber plates. Anyone know why one would run them? If I'm thinking about this correctly, the spherical bearings don't like axial loads, the reason you use spherical bearings is to support the axial misalignment that occurs when you start adjusting things. The cylinder/needle bearings shown would support the axial loads. I could be completely wrong though, I'm also stuck in oldschool suspension design... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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