rwdlancer Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 hey all. just wondering if anybody has faild a wof for having a cut rear parcel tray? it must be common in oldschool cars as most of them need to be cut to fit speakers in the back.myne in my ex lancer has been cut slightly in order to fit 1000w 6x9s in.i can see the original apeaker holes that it had still and hasnt been cut anywhere near the seatbelt mounts. so i cant see how this makes my car unsafe? but mr vtnz warrent man thinks so. would i need to get a cert for this modification ? anyone had experience with this in the past? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raizer Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Yes my first Sigma failed on it too, was cut for 6x9s as well. I had to get patches from a wreckers to weld back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyBreeze Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Yeah had to weld up the holes in the parcel tray on the mini to get WOF. I just used some sheet steel, didnt really care what it looked like. Have to be careful though, because if you come back with welded stuff they can ask who welded it etc. I know of a friend who couldnt get a WOF because he welded something himself rather than going to a 'professional'. BS if you ask me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemi Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Yeah had to weld up the holes in the parcel tray on the mini to get WOF. I just used some sheet steel, didnt really care what it looked like.Have to be careful though, because if you come back with welded stuff they can ask who welded it etc. I know of a friend who couldnt get a WOF because he welded something himself rather than going to a 'professional'. BS if you ask me sounds suckey but the rear parcel tray is condsidered structural (which it is) , and to modify such things you need a 4711 as far as i know (thats for trucks though) , which is a welding cert. if you make it look good though most wof inspectors wont really care ( remember that its their asses on the line if you crash into a power pole of tree or whatever and they find that the rear parcel tray had been knocked back for modification and then the wof inspector gave it a wof ). in saying that my first car (mk2 scort) had hacked trays and i never got knocked back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepers Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 you can get it creted if you really want to, big money for a speaker though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSM Garage Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I got failed for a wof in my HQ Kingswood, for 6x9 speaker holes. Tester told me that the holes can not be 300mm from the seatbelt anchors. Lucky enough, i was able to change diagonal belts to lap belts. The whole parcel tray hole thingee is BS if ya ask me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemi Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I got failed for a wof in my HQ Kingswood, for 6x9 speaker holes. Tester told me that the holes can not be 300mm from the seatbelt anchors. Lucky enough, i was able to change diagonal belts to lap belts. The whole parcel tray hole thingee is BS if ya ask me! prehaps so man but those are the rules.. (feel like an old wof man that everyone hates now) there is a reason for thhe rules in the cert book and although some seem tediously silly ( which some are ) , its the wof inspectors ass on the line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I have failed it. What I did was: Get some thin 1-2mm strap which you can bend around to form a circle. Then bend it to the same size as the 'round' holes you have cut which your speakers fit through. Then weld the strap up in the right shape and then weld a circle patch onto the bottom forming a cake type tin I guess. Next is welding it up under the parcel tray. Make it slightly taller than it needs to be so you can stick it through the hole and weld it from the top then cut the excess off. Thats what I did and it passed a WOF, this was years ago tho.. Gaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwdlancer Posted April 27, 2009 Author Share Posted April 27, 2009 so pretty much needs to be welded up by a certed wleder then.its bullshit cause it hasnt been cut any closer to the seatbelt mounts.the holes hace just been cut bigger towards the middle of the parcel tray and widened slightly. what would a cert cost for this? and how would they determine wether is safe or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vai-Man Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Normal cert price $400 or so and depends on the certifyer not worth it imo if its only for speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyteler Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 so pretty much needs to be welded up by a certed wleder then.its bullshit cause it hasnt been cut any closer to the seatbelt mounts.the holes hace just been cut bigger towards the middle of the parcel tray and widened slightly. what would a cert cost for this? and how would they determine wether is safe or not The parcel tray is structural in most monocoque chassis designs, any interference or cutting of said tray should result in WoF failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwdlancer Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 yea definatly wouldnt get a cert for it.i took some photos to show how much its been cut. has anyone got any photos of there uncut rear parcel trays in ther ex's? rh side hole lh side hole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyteler Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 No wonder it failed bro. That's not "cut" that's "mutilated" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insani-T Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 That does look a bit excessive for speaker holes. Done by previous owner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwdlancer Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 yup u got it the guy who owned it before me was a complete fuckwit.he had frickn side skirts on the lancer b4 i got it.wtf. so any suggestions on making it "safe"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insani-T Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Perhaps find a wrecked shell you chould chop the parcel tray out of and replace? And when asked who fix it. Just tell them it was done by a professional, but of course it will need to look like a professional did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyteler Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 The only thing I can think to do would be to either fab some steel up to fit the gaps or see if there's any at a wreckers and cut out the whole parcel tray then weld the thirds that you need, directly over your mangled one. Your best bet might be to ask the WoF man what would be acceptable though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwdlancer Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 I was going to ask him what would be acceptable but he was just being an asshole about my car aye.so if i got a good welder to do it would i need something saying the welds are done by a proffesional or do you think he will just beleive me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSM Garage Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Id say cut a parcel tray from a donor and weld it in would be the best bet. If you take your time and make a good job of it, you'd be able to make it look mint. Ive got a shell sitting at home, but you'd have to do some convincing (as in good $ offer) to get me to cut it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwdlancer Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 Ive been on the hunt for a wreck to get cutting away on.no luck yet. Id say cut a parcel tray from a donor and weld it in would be the best bet. If you take your time and make a good job of it, you'd be able to make it look mint. Ive got a shell sitting at home, but you'd have to do some convincing (as in good $ offer) to get me to cut it. how much would u be expecting for the cut? is it just a parts shell or is it pretty complete? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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