square Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 bear with me im becoming a boomer so may have screwed these posts up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldrx7 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Look forward to seeing what you do with it. Very different and unique! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi808 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Nice! Sounds like a fun project and I’m looking forward to following along. @dabuzz modified his stock airclearner to fit over his IDA set up so it looked stock. Maybe look through his build thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNAMUCK Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 I have little to add, except that quite some years ago there was an EF9(?) Civic on trademe with a 13b bridgey. It ran a fwd 5 speed from a Camry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabuzz Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 I would normally say rotor everything- but in this case id say a GTX 1.8 turbo conversion would kill anything rotor powered, and be way more of a sleeper. Either way, get stuck into it- ill be following the build Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
square Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 cheers yeah Im pumped on it, pointless but it'll keep me busy. Ive got a mate in town with another one the same, he wants the same swap done. I dont need it to be fast, I have other fast shit, its just needs to be loud and slow looking. My main concerns will be flywheel diameter, starter placement and track width etc, hopefully the tie rod inputs etc arent too dissimilar on the later mazdas or whatever I use and I can keep the steering rack and everything stock. The last design approval I did sucked the life out of me for a while. I sort of need to get the engine first to start mockups but haven't had any good options jump out, 13b sounds the best bet for parts availability. One gem I read was the the auto counterweights on the 13b has a different flange which will allow alot more flywheel options, that what the grey BFMR used. Talking to a few mates in motorsport the Honda boxes sound like the handle the power better and probably easier to get brake upgrades etc for, I might need a parts car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Might be rocking horse poo now but what about using BFMP familia box, axles, brakes etc from memory its all bolt in to the earlier one? better brakes as well probably handle an na rotary if it dealt with a turbo 1600 (just, haha) my old boss loved lasers/323s, we wrecked/tarted up and sold heaps of them in the late 90s early 00s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
square Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 yeah that could be the go if I could get one, my thinking was the donor trans doesn't matter too much, I just would try and start with something closer to the wanger hp wise ( i figure 200 at flywheel ) which seems closeish to what the 2.3 later familia / atenza motors are. Im might start pesting round the rally prep shops and see if any of them have any old mazda stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumberSS Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 My worker is building up a 12a to sell, he has a few engines lying about and is a very capable engine builder... His 350hp s1 rx7 convinced me of that! Anyway can see what his plan is re timing to complete? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
square Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 Yeah cheers any options are good at this stage, apart from dropping 20+k into a new engine, that don't seem smart 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Hey dude, Im not sure how well you know the fwd Toyota gearboxes but the C160 are ok but not very strong compared to the C56 5 speed variant. In a nutshell C1** series boxes have lighter internals (gearsets and crown wheels) compared to the C** series boxes. I run a C56 (albeit a mix match of several boxes) behind my 4agte that's somewhere in the 240fwkw range. What sort of power are you expecting to make? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
square Posted May 5, 2023 Author Share Posted May 5, 2023 Sweet ok thanks I'll keep an eye out for a c56. I don't need 6 speeds. Power wise ideally I'd keep it around the 200 hp mark, I don't need lots and won't run a turbo or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GARDRB Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 You'll probably find that the C160 will fetch a premium (a week before racewars) because they get broken by muppets more than the c56 too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
square Posted May 9, 2023 Author Share Posted May 9, 2023 cheers yeah it seems like theyre in demand, Ive ended up with a complete C160 conversion including axles and dash so im sure someone will want it. Havent had any C56s jump up at me yet, then a mate hit a deer in his sp20 the other night and fucked it so that might be a good option to strip, dunno if the later mazda manuals are any tougher than the early ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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