jtkp61 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Hey guys, just done a full rebuild on my 4k. Had it running mint got a warrant and on the way home it died, it had the typical symptoms of a flat battery. Charged battery, no change. The coil was the only thing I had not replaced so I bought a new one. Cars got spark and fuel and timing is good (i've been told) however still it wont start. The starter motor is turning the engine over, but it wont fire into life. Had 3 people round and still can't work it out. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelies Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 does it have a good spark? sunnycoupe's 2k showed spark but wouldnt start till the condenser was changed. the previous condenser even looked nice and new too. what did it do when it died? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87MKII Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 It was running and then it just cut out.. SO its def getting fuel, theres spark.. I have a feeling it will be something minor. Maybe something has come loose or along those lines.. Im just trying to give u some ideas. cnt really tell with out being there to see and hear whats happening. If it was running then it cnt be the timing aye? does she have lumpy cam? Yeah like the bro steelies said it might need a real good spark maybe.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seedy Al Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Agreed. Check points gap also. And what do you mean typical symptoms of a flat battery? Like winding over slowly? and you have charged battery andf its still winding over slowly or is that fixed now?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKtrips Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Yeah sounds like you need to diagnose fully from scratch - I think I'll write something up in the next few days that covers diagnosing cars with points and carbs.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin' joe Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 extra earth on the head. had same issue when fitting rebuilt motor in club/rally car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtkp61 Posted September 19, 2012 Author Share Posted September 19, 2012 first place it died randomly when driving followed by not even turning over, once i charged the battery the starter motor was turning over however even wouldn't fire. was told coils stuffed, replaced that same issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin' joe Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 first place it died randomly when driving followed by not even turning over, once i charged the battery the starter motor was turning over however even wouldn't fire. was told coils stuffed, replaced that same issue. extra earth on the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlownCorona Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 a bit of extra info, i set the static timing on this by getting #1 cylinder at tdc (actually at 8 degrees) on compression stroke (rockers rocking) and set the dizzy to the #1 lead, alowing for the hylical drive that moves the rotor. i then read on club k that it was meant to be timed with #4 at tdc on comp stroke (Ned was actually in on that discusion, and it was the user Blown 5K that listed these instructions), it seemed retarded but i tried it anyway because the guy seemed to know what he was talking about and it cant hurt it, but no joy, so im pretty sure it needs to be timed back using #1 cylinder for a 3rd time, as thats how i got it initially running. can anyone confirm the correct way to static time a 4k? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87MKII Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Buy a brand new Battery! Its worth it. $150 should get you a half decent one. I had problems with my car not running and starting ended up buying a new battery and bam! bobs ya unlce, fannys ya aunt and to hell with the pope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rip Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Have you checked power to the fuel cutoff soleniod on the carby the wires spade terminal can easy become lose and/or fall out caught me out a while back it sure stops the motor dead quick. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87MKII Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Hey, Have you got it running properly yet? if so what was the problem lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtkp61 Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 Will check that carby cheers No, still wont go. Video here may help? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGvRrr8Qqco&feature=youtu.be Rev counter disconnected hence so movement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelies Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 that sound like no/stuff all compression to anyone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durty Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Will check that carby cheersNo, still wont go. Video here may help? eGvRrr8Qqco Rev counter disconnected hence so movement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durty Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 that sound like no/stuff all compression to anyone else? sounds pretty shitty to me. do a compression test Or maybe sounds like the starter isnt engaging and just hearing the starter spinning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtkp61 Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 New Starter motor has just been put in lol. Yeah will do a compression test, cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olsen21 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Had similar problems once, and turned out to be battery and alternater were toast as. but i must agree sounds like there is not much compression there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyteler Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Whip the rocker cover off an check that things are moving like they're supposed to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKtrips Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Sounds like zero compression - but hard to imagine how that could be so with a timing chain - unless the timing gear has come off the cam. Check for spark and compression then let us know the result.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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