keltik Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Hai all. Im having some trouble with the wagon, i realise that its not strictly oldschool - but you fellahs are probably the most technically minded active forum im a member of. The Subaru club forums are just fucking useless and will tell me to check silly things that dont even apply. I honestly will get better answers here! Plus, I want to buy a particular oldschool vehicle, but cant really do that if i need to spend all of my currently available cash on the daily driver. Rightyho, so a week ago when the weather picked up i started driving around with the windows down and could sniff out just a tiny whiff of burning oil. I recently split a rear CV boot and figured it was that so just ignored it. Anywhoo - had Vintage Grumble following me on the weekend with his Go-Pro and he showed me that my car is actually burning a bit of oil. Further examination reveals the following; * Runs fine, maybe a smidge rich at times * Doesnt smoke significantly under load, even high rpm full load * Has never used any oil before in its life and if it IS using oil now - its not enough to notice yet * Smokes a lot when you get back on the throttle after coasting for a bit * Smokes more the longer you coast for * Isn't a PCV fault as the problem repeats even with all breathers unhooked * Doesnt appear to have blow-by issues since the breathers dont vent under load. This problem has developed relatively quickly, ive only noticed it in the last week and its quickly gone from being a small problem to turning the road blue at the bottom of the mokoroa gorge. Its got over 200,000kms on this motor now and 120,000kms of those were at full throttle under my foot....so im not exactly suprised its showing signs of age. Im thinking valve guides? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock-Lee Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 valve stem seals son Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizzl Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 definately coming from exhaust? had a similar smoke screem from a front main seal in our last leggy,oil burning on the exhaust etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltik Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 Yeah sadly, bumper is getting turned to a oily sooty shitmess. Comes on strong as soon as i hit the throttle at the bottom of a hill. Fuck if i have to pull the heads off this thing the motor is getting binned. So not worth rebuilding. Mildly ironic considering a week ago i wanted to drop in the newer motor.....now i might need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaMpylobacter Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 guides/stem seals fo sho, esp if pcv system is eliminated. hasn't been swapped for a mitsi recently? parked next to an xu9j4 pug it'll shit it's guides and stem seals in sympathy too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltik Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 Fuckin' Peugeots......lols Well lets see, forgive me for thinking out loud for a second but someone might chime in with something useful; If stem seals are in need of replacement, that would require heads off. Heads off would require engine out, new head gaskets, new intake gaskets, chain assembly and cover removed. Removing the timing chain would be bad because i couldnt reinstall it in good conscience with worn chain guides. I would then feel compelled to do the water pump and idlers at the same time. So im looking at least $800 in parts to get the current motor overhauled to a satisfactory standard. Or replace with a newer 2008 spec motor with waaaay more power and 100,000 less kms on it for approx $1500. Spend an hour or 2 on the dyno to retune then sell the old motor to recoup costs. Or drive it into the ground and be a cunt ruining the environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltik Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 Actually while im thinking about it. If its intake stem seals, i should see black fouling on the plugs of the affected cylinders yeah? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuel Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 yeah valve stem seals most likely. I would temporarily switch to a thicker oil too, like a 15W50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaMpylobacter Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 may not see it on the plugs eh. probably should though. engine swap to low kays unit ftw. you might slam all that work into current engine and wish 6 months down the trak that you'd done rings and bearings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltik Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 Wrecker man is getting back to me shortly with a price on basic longblock and intake. Will swap all my current ancillaries onto new motor. Most stuff should be identical since they only differ in the heads. Sensors are the same etc. If he can do it for less than $1500 delivered...it will be engine swap time this weekend. Will flick the old motor on for a cheap price and someone will get a pretty good deal i reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I lol at changing a engine because of valve stem seals, stupid subarus! Usually can be done in place with the head on bud, but I guess you dont have the room. You can still leave the heads on, just us compressed air (bit of nylon rope if you are hory) to keep the valve up, you will also need some spring compressors that are capable fo doing th job with the head on. But yea cam chain etc will be a pain Push stick engines are super awesome in this regards, its usually easy as shit to do them in place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltik Posted October 25, 2011 Author Share Posted October 25, 2011 Yeah i mean im all for Boxer engines, i really do love em. But doing anything on the heads in car is just a cunt. Especially when youve got 24 valves worth of shims being supported by magic once you whip the cams out. I guess this isnt the only reason i'd change the engine, i was wanting to do it anyways. If i actually liked the motor i would have no trouble spending the dough to spruce it up. But after 4 years of people saying "oh youve got the gay spec one....." Im keen to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltik Posted October 25, 2011 Author Share Posted October 25, 2011 Hmm...yes i think i see it. Drivers side bank; Passenger side bank; Plug number 1 on the passenger bank was wet with oil. 2 and 3 are a bit gunky but not as bad. Also....that was a slightly cunty job, but im willing to bet nowhere near as hard as a transverse v6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoKer Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 remove all oil : jobdone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 remove all oil : jobdone drill + tap main and big end caps, fit grease nipples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltik Posted October 25, 2011 Author Share Posted October 25, 2011 remove all oil : jobdone drill + tap main and big end caps, fit grease nipples Willing to bet tortrons truck has this feature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raizer Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 remove all oil : jobdone Whakatane dry sump! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltik Posted October 25, 2011 Author Share Posted October 25, 2011 Its not cranking evenly....turned the injectors off and sat on the starter for a bit. You can definitely hear one cylinder labours more than the rest. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuel Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 done a compression test? could be you've cracked a ring land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Not much without a better diagnosis, leak down test etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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