Ridal Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 KA67 carina. Leaf springs in the rear. Where would I benefit from using nolathane bushes and what will I notice from suggested replacements? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dell'orto Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Front sway bar mounts and link bushes, tightens up cornering nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridal Posted June 17, 2011 Author Share Posted June 17, 2011 Ok thanks I think I'll do them first as I'm changing lower control arms anyway so all that assembly will be dismantled. Do you know what I could expect to pay for all of those bushed in nolathane? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustywhip Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Can be pricey. Where abouts are you? Definately money well spent upgrading the factory bushes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridal Posted June 17, 2011 Author Share Posted June 17, 2011 Christchurch. As I mentioned above, all those suspension bits are coming out so it would be an ideal opportunity to do the upgrade. Does the price vary as to how common the bush size is? I'd imagine the ones I would be using would be reasonably common? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustywhip Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Oh I must have missed it. Just pull all your old stuff out and take them to the shop of your choice. I thought my cressida was common enough and that still took ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridal Posted June 17, 2011 Author Share Posted June 17, 2011 Sorry I meant 'as above' referring to the lca swap, not location. Ok will do. What did yours end up costing? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustywhip Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Cant remeber for the toyota but some thing like $150+. I get very low prices as we deal with Autolign thru my work. The rear of my datsun cost $94 which I did over x-mas, which was springs and the hangers (6 pairs total) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fulloc Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Do front radius rod too and control arm. Also make sure steering is tight including rack mount bushes or idler/ tie rods etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclejake Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 I have had NOTHING but bad experiences with these bushes on anything to do with steering. They wear our sensationally fast in my experience, and make your car handle worse than it did on rubber (after a few thousand kms) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridal Posted June 17, 2011 Author Share Posted June 17, 2011 What car is this in? My rubber ones have most probably never been replaced so I would think anything new would be an improvement. Thanks for the input. It would be interesting to compare new rubber to new nolathane. I imagine most people especially on this forum would be replacing old, tired factory bushes so, as in my case, anything would be felt as an improvement. But I like the sound of crisp handling and nolathane certainly have the stiffness. Did your nolathane bushes get sloppy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclejake Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Nah, they didn't get sloppy, they just wore ovals in the centre bores of the steering components of my race car, most other people's race cars and other things that move. That allows play and makes life suck. I had issues with nolathane in leaf spring eye bushes too, but not as severe as the steering component wear. Rubber is really good. Seriously. Having said that, we often can't buy rubber bushes for our old cars so you may be forced into nolathane. My experiences are with the genuine, red, nolathane that was sold everywhere about eight-ten years ago. The new alternatives might be better. Dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTERUS Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 When I was looking at bushes for my car, Noltec was the only option I could find. They are a bit softer than straight up Nolathane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltik Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Im in the process of binning all the nolathane i put into my wagon 2 years ago. It was the genuine red stuff from autolign. The front LCA bushes pulled through the mount on one side. They also creaked like a bitch so had to be re-greased every 9 months. My front sway bar bushes have just started creaking again so ill be changing those out for factory ones soon. Only place ive used nolathane with success was in the steering rack mounts, and thats just cos the factory ones arent quite grippy enough. Ill also be using them for my rear diff mounts since that joint experiences no movement. Might be good stuff for a race car, but when subjected to daily k's it just doesnt seem to last. Ive had exactly the same problems UJ described with my rear sway bar bushes wearing into oval shaped holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camo_78 Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 hmmmm,sounds like i might have to rethink nolathaning my panelvan now.ive seen noltec bushes advertised on tardme,worth a go instead?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 In the front of a carina, all that I would reccomend putting nolathane in is the front of the castor arms, the swaybar drop links, swaybar bushes, steering rack mount bushes. Not sure about leaf spring, but for the 4 link rear it'll bind up if you use nolathane. They will happily manufacture and sell things that cause your suspension to bind up, or wear out prematurely, or whatever else. Dont assume they've put any thought into whether or not urethane is appropriate compared to rubber, demand = supply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felixx Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 hmmm so paying extra for nolathane is not always the best way to go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridal Posted June 18, 2011 Author Share Posted June 18, 2011 I've done a bit of reading online and it seems everyone has had troubles with nolathane/noltec/whiteline/rose joints. So I'll talk to Autoline soon and see what they have to say. Thanks for that advice Roman. I get pretty bad axle tramp at the moment so maybe stiffer mounts will help out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dell'orto Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 So far, done 11,000k's of daily driving with the entire front end of my Levin Nolathaned, no ovalisation/excess wear. Might get it on the hoist and regrease them at some stage, but they still appear to have plenty there. Have seen them wear out before, but generally the bush is dead dry so possibly a case of not enough grease applied at install? My KE70 wagon has had nolathane swaybar mounts and links for about 5 years now, they're fine. Admittedly it hasnt been in daily duties that entire time, but I would estimate it would have done 20,000k's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridal Posted June 18, 2011 Author Share Posted June 18, 2011 That sounds like it would be a common error, installing without enough grease. Thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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