Guest rotorgoround Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 hey people, im half way thru swapping engines from the 1600 ex lancer to the 2000 sigma. jut a few quickies... 1. EXHAUST -> is there a way to get these bolted up using a combo of sigma and ex exhausts without any cutting and welding? 2. DRIVESHAFT -> will sigma engine and 5spd gbox fit driveshaft of ex lancer? 3 MISC. -> anything else i may find helpful for the conversion? the engine is ready to be dropped into lancer. many thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaMpylobacter Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 nope yes duno. starting with a 4g32 will get you well on the way. have a look through caboonatlarge's project thread for his EX. being a 4g32, yours should be pretty much bolt in apparently, and not need mounts/crossmember change like his, as the 4g11 mounts are diff..... should be straight forward though, although there's always hiccups in conversions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowlancer Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 May need to change driveshaft, I had to get mine shrotened but it was an Auto It'll bolt in since yours is a 1600, if it was the lesser 1200 then the engine xmember needs to be swapped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macabre Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 update on your ride mr elliot plz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowlancer Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 Motor has been painted and is back together, just needs to be torqued right Got new clutch today, almost finished ECU business, fucking boring Shouldn't be long now, not as n00b as Atro! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ryong963 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 hey the sigma motors bolt straight on, if your gonna use a sigma 5spd you have to cut about an inch or so out of the floor cos the sigma box's are slightly bigger but they still bolt onto the standard EX lancer 1600 driveshaft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowlancer Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 And again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ke36 Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 are there any issuses with wiring when swapping from a 1200 to the 2 litre? as in do you need to remire anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteretep Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 someone really needs to do a tech article about this kind of thing, so many questions about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 someone really needs to do a tech article about this kind of thing, so many questions about it So true, should get ogre to write one up. Has done it plenty of times, and soon with 2 different types of mitsis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowlancer Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 I've started one. Will post it, and people add in their bits they know. Rule should be, only post what you know FOR SURE ie: you've done it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogre Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 its a bolt in, manuel drive shaft from any EX fits, fit an l200 extention housing to the sigma box and it lines up with the shifterhole in the tunnel. I really think there needs to be a tech article on this too, im keen to put input into it.The older colt lancers seem too be the same deal as the EX, i will be doing mine soon, so could put that in too, planning on more pics etc of the conversion this time wheres the post for tis tech article ediot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowlancer Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Cross-members/Engine mounts 1200 aka 4G36 crossmember will not bolt up to rwd 4G63 mounts. 4G36s are found in a variety of vehicles common to the 4G63 conversion. In particular, Ex lancers, Celestes, LA-LC Lancers. Use either a crossmember from a 1600cc aka 4G32, which is found in all of the above vehicles as well as Galants and Sigmas, or the 4G63 crossmember. Both will bolt into any 1200cc vehicle. All engine mounts are the same bar locating pins on 1200cc mounts, remove these. Gearbox crossmember Starion crossmember will not fit Celeste or LA-LC lancer, use standard Sigma/Celeste/lancer crossmember. All passenger vehicle gearbox mount bolts are the same, regardless of wide block or not. Driveshaft Standard Automatic driveshaft from La-LC Lancer and Celeste requires shortening to fit 4G63 with gearbox from Sigma Clutch Clutch cable swaps on all models Throttle cable Use either standard sigma or starion throttle cable on Starion motor, both fit Quote and edit and add extra sections as required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogre Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Cross-members/Engine mounts1200 aka 4G36 and 4g11(ex lancer) crossmember will not bolt up to rwd 4G63 mounts. 4G36s and 4g11s are found in a variety of vehicles common to the 4G63 conversion. In particular,EX lancers, Celestes, LA-LC Lancers. Use either a crossmember from a 1600cc aka 4G32, which is found in all of the above vehicles as well as Galants and Sigmas, or the 4G63 crossmember. Both will bolt into any 1200cc vehicle. All engine mounts are the same bar locating pins on 1200cc mounts, remove these. If using the sigma crossmember in 1200cc EX lancer, the idler arm needs to be changed with the sigma one. Gearbox crossmember Starion crossmember will not fit Celeste or LA-LC lancer, use standard Sigma/Celeste/lancer crossmember. All passenger vehicle gearbox mount bolts are the same, regardless of wide block or not. Cannot use the sigma/ex lancer crossmember in LA-LC lancers, but can use the mount bush thing from the 5sp ex lancer crossmember. All 4sp gearbox mounts are smaller than the 5sp Driveshaft Standard Automatic driveshaft from La-LC Lancer and Celeste requires shortening to fit 4G63 with gearbox from Sigma Stantard manuel driveshaft from ex lancer fits with the sigma gearbox in the EX lancer (looks to fit in the colt too, but havnt tried it yet, will do soon) Clutch Clutch cable swaps on all models Throttle cable Use either standard sigma or starion throttle cable on Starion motor, both fit Quote and edit and add extra sections as required. Just a note on the gearbox mount etc, there is the crossmember and there is the mount peice.the mount can be swapped over with the LA-LC crossmember, the the whole crossmember cant etc, if you get my drift.Dont know how you want to include this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuel Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Cross-members/Engine mounts1200 aka 4G36 crossmember will not bolt up to rwd 4G63 mounts. 4G36s are found in a variety of vehicles common to the 4G63 conversion. In particular, Ex lancers, Celestes, LA-LC Lancers. Use either a crossmember from a 1600cc aka 4G32, which is found in all of the above vehicles as well as Galants and Sigmas, or the 4G63 crossmember. Both will bolt into any 1200cc vehicle. All engine mounts are the same bar locating pins on 1200cc mounts, remove these. Gearbox crossmember Starion crossmember will not fit Celeste or LA-LC lancer, use standard Sigma/Celeste/lancer crossmember. All passenger vehicle gearbox mount bolts are the same, regardless of wide block or not. Driveshaft Standard Automatic driveshaft from La-LC Lancer and Celeste requires shortening to fit 4G63 with gearbox from Sigma Clutch Clutch cable swaps on all models Throttle cable Use either standard sigma or starion throttle cable on Starion motor, both fit Quote and edit and add extra sections as required. Hey dude 4G36 crossmember and mounts should be exactly the same as 4G32 crossmember/mounts. It's the 1200 (4G11) in the EX Lancer which is different mounts but the 4G36 1200cc in the previous Lancers should be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isnowi Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Hey all one more pearl that could save some people time. automatic ex lancer tunnel is completely different to manual. The gearbox xmember mounts are about 200 mm further back, and will not bolt to a std gearbox mount without major alterations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowlancer Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Cross-members/Engine mounts 1200 aka 4G11 crossmember will not bolt up to rwd 4G63 mounts. 4G11s are found in a variety of vehicles common to the 4G63 conversion. In particular, Ex lancers. Use either a crossmember from a 1600cc aka 4G32, which is found in a variety of Mitsy pasenger vehicles as well as Galants and Sigmas, or the 4G63 crossmember. Both will bolt into any 1200cc vehicle. All engine mounts are the same bar locating pins on 1200cc mounts, remove these. Gearbox crossmember Starion crossmember will not fit Celeste or LA-LC lancer, use standard Celeste/lancer crossmember. Sigma xmember will not fit either. Just use the mount from Sigma/Starion and mount that on the standard x member. All passenger vehicle gearbox mount bolts are the same, regardless of wide block or not. Automatic ex lancer tunnel is completely different to manual. The gearbox xmember mounts are about 200 mm further back, and will not bolt to a std gearbox mount without major alterations Driveshaft Standard Automatic driveshaft from La-LC Lancer and Celeste requires shortening to fit 4G63 with gearbox from Sigma Clutch Clutch cable swaps on all models Throttle cable Use either standard sigma or starion throttle cable on Starion motor, both fit EDITED TO SUIT ABOVE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJZ Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 4G32 rubber engine mounts won't work with 4G63 metal engine mounts, the stud sticking out of the mount is in a different place. You can use a standard 4G32 gearbox behind a narrow block 4G63, using the 4G63 flywheel, release bearing and clutch cover and a clutch plate from a 4G52 Sigma/Celeste. If using a FWD flywheel you'll have to get it machined to take a spigot bearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troyzakp60 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 what about a 4g32,will that bolt into a 4g11 1200 ex lancer.are the criss members the same ect? have everything out of a 1600 ex just dnt have cross member cause its bent, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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