lowlancer 527 Report post Posted February 22, 2006 Any of the SOHC turbos use the wide block like the N/a carburettor? This way I can use my existing gearbox Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ogre 738 Report post Posted February 23, 2006 yeah the FWD 4g63bt and isnt it a smaller of the the bell housings on the n/a? 110mm as aposed to the 130mm or somthing of the starion motor? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EvoUtion Report post Posted February 23, 2006 starion is a wideblock, most FWD 4g63's are narrow like the VR4 for example Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HUNTD 1 Report post Posted February 23, 2006 starion is a wideblock, most FWD 4g63's are narrow like the VR4 for example generally speaking FWD = Front wheel Drive 4WD = Four wheel drive athough how cool would a fwd vr4 be Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davidian 94 Report post Posted February 23, 2006 starion is a wideblock, most FWD 4g63's are narrow like the VR4 for example generally speaking FWD = Front wheel Drive 4WD = Four wheel drive athough how cool would a fwd vr4 be wtf? cheers for that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dolan 15,516 Report post Posted February 23, 2006 starion is a wideblock, most FWD 4g63's are narrow like the VR4 for example generally speaking FWD = Front wheel Drive 4WD = Four wheel drive athough how cool would a fwd vr4 be most "4wd" cars like vr4s are still regarded, enginewise, as being "FWD" more technically correct would have been "east west config" real 4wd = north south, locking centre diffs, ute styles Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HUNTD 1 Report post Posted February 23, 2006 starion is a wideblock, most FWD 4g63's are narrow like the VR4 for example generally speaking FWD = Front wheel Drive 4WD = Four wheel drive athough how cool would a fwd vr4 be most "4wd" cars like vr4s are still regarded, enginewise, as being "FWD" more technically correct would have been "east west config" real 4wd = north south, locking centre diffs, ute styles i realise that, i was just stating for other's benefits Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lowlancer 527 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 Fuck off spammers So my box will bolt to a starion block? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kyteler 55,411 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 Maybe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dolan 15,516 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 did some googling because i'm a fuckin nice guy "A VR4 engine wont bolt into a starion with the starion gearbox as the VR4 engine has a narrow block suited for front wheel drive cars" so it can be assumed that starion engines are wideblock next "EVO engines don't have RWD mounting points because they were mounted from the gearbox, VR4 engines however DO have the mounting points. L200 4G63 gearboxes can be used, and you can put starion internals inside them for better ratio's (not sure if you can use your stock crossmember though). i've heard of sigma gearboxes being used that bolt straight up to the VR4 motor's. starion gearboxes will need an adaptor (early sohc 4G63's had a thinner bolt pattern for the gearbox) another rumour (very vague, only heard it from one person) is that the late model GSR III starions with the 12V heads had a gearbox that might bolt up??????" so you can again assume that starions are wideblock, vr4 and evo are narrow block, and 4g63 N/A sohc engines such as your current one are narrow block. easy then that end bit, although hearsay, throw a spanner in it... dash 12v engines = narrow block?? hmm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lowlancer 527 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 Hmmm, that just confused me more I was sure mine was wide block... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
macabre 16 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 unlikely if its a sigma engine. can u get to the back of it to measure it? that would be easiest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lowlancer 527 Report post Posted February 25, 2006 Gay Taking the cunt out tomorrow, will check then I spose Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ogre 738 Report post Posted March 9, 2006 alright, MOST l200 are the narrow block (110mm) but SOME are the wideblock (130mm) and are all cable clutch starions and sigma GSR RWD are wideblock, FWD and 4WD sigmas, vr4s are narrow block But then again i dont know what the dash motor is, i have a feeling its the narrow.just try bolting it up with the box i left at your place.Thats a narrow one.if it dont fit that then yoy need a wideblock box.Either a starion/sigma RWD one or a l200 wideblock one.The sigma and starion are hydro clutch but the l200 is cable. Good luck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lowlancer 527 Report post Posted March 10, 2006 Yeah it's a wideblock It came with it's gearbox I'll take a pic to remember it by Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allan 1 Report post Posted September 9, 2010 anyone know if starion internals (oil squirters crank pistons etc) will bolt into a vr4 block? and are they the same or weaker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fuel 1,531 Report post Posted September 9, 2010 oil squirters and rods are the same, cranks are different (same flywheel bolt pattern, DOHC is longer on the crank pulley end). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allan 1 Report post Posted September 9, 2010 cool are the pistons and rods the same strenth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valiant 40,957 Report post Posted September 9, 2010 Hi. I think all the early RWD turbos were wide block. I swapped a turbo motor from an early sigma into my l200. I just used the wide turbo gearbox and the whole thing bolted to the ute mounts. I just had to change the ute to hydraulic clutch which wasn't to hard. I think the thing people do to use DOHC with a wide block gear box is to swap the DOHC head,crank etc into the SOHC wide block. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allan 1 Report post Posted September 9, 2010 well i've got a l200 gearbox on the 4g32 in the car atm and from what i understand that gearbox will go straight onto the vr4 block could i use the 4g32 flywheel and clutch plate on the vr4 crank? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
