Chuffaneilious Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Hello everyone, Im currently building up a 1gge, i need very little to get it going N/A. But how hard is it to +T a 1GGE?? I know people will say 'why would you??', but why not?? The compression is i bit more than a standard 1GGTE but sould run a +T set-up safe-ish. Its been rebuilkt with all new seals, rings, bearings, cam grind etc.. Its in mint condision, and would go mean as a N/A beater. Jsut had a thought of adding a turbo and running it off the standard 1GGTE loom and ecu. the main thing is i can get a 1GGTE custom steampipe manifold (Far more tough and overbuilt than needed) and a tial wastegate off a mate for cheapish. hehe. and then run a t3 or smaller turbo. Thought why not run a t3t4 and run it at 5-6psi, maybe?? anyway whats stopping me from running it as a plus turbo set up (safely)?? Please if you know anything about this and these engines comment. All comments valued. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Calico Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 should be fine if kept on low boost levels, as with most '+T' conversions, but those more experienced with 1G's may have a more informed opinion to offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cute wee gem Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Just do it and find out, can't see why it wouldn't work. Check AFRs with a wideband once it's up and running and it should give you a fair idea how safe it will be (maybe adjust fuel pressure to suit if it's close), then it's up to the factory knock control (which I assume they have?) as to whether it'll blow up or not The engine itself should be plenty strong enough. Edit: maybe make up some det-cans for your own knock control (google it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjrstar Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 my 1gge+t was running 20 psi boost without any dramas, larger injectors turbo link ecu and most importantly a decent tune.. no idea how well things will behave on the factory ecu.. the 1G is a bloody solid engine, mine sure took a beating at numerous track days on 16-18 psi and around 245kw at the wheels... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuffaneilious Posted January 9, 2013 Author Share Posted January 9, 2013 Just do it and find out, can't see why it wouldn't work. Check AFRs with a wideband once it's up and running and it should give you a fair idea how safe it will be (maybe adjust fuel pressure to suit if it's close), then it's up to the factory knock control (which I assume they have?) as to whether it'll blow up or not The engine itself should be plenty strong enough. Edit: maybe make up some det-cans for your own knock control (google it) Do you know or does anyone know if a 1GGE has a knock sensor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikuni Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 If you have a 1g-gte handy to steal the loom, ecu, turbo, manfiolds etc off them grab the knock sensors off that too? From a quick google it looks like they have 2. I've been reading up on turboing NA engines and if you use all of the turbo gear then bump up the fuel pressure with an adjustable fuel pressure reg while a wide band is connected it should all work really well. I've been a fan of high comp turbo engine for a while. They don't usually have the ultimate horsepower potential of low CR high boost engines, but they respond really well to minimal mods. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuffaneilious Posted January 9, 2013 Author Share Posted January 9, 2013 If you have a 1g-gte handy to steal the loom, ecu, turbo, manfiolds etc off them grab the knock sensors off that too? From a quick google it looks like they have 2. I've been reading up on turboing NA engines and if you use all of the turbo gear then bump up the fuel pressure with an adjustable fuel pressure reg while a wide band is connected it should all work really well. I've been a fan of high comp turbo engine for a while. They don't usually have the ultimate horsepower potential of low CR high boost engines, but they respond really well to minimal mods. Mean, Im geting a 1ggte ecu and loom so that should work rather well. As reference to adding the standard 1ggte turbos and manifold, i thought about it but if im going to turbo it i most-as-well go to bigger turbo such as a T3T4 or a little larger. If its going to blow up. I want it to be a Decent turbo to end the 1G's life. hehehe. Chur for the info though bro. appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truenotch Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I think it'll struggle with a bigger turbo. Have you seen any people running a T3/T4 on the standard ECU before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTERUS Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 MrDori ran a chinese spec T3/T4 on 1GGTE with a manifold he made. Only mod was rising rate fuel reg. It made a rather laggy 200kw atw, but fucking loved to rev. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuffaneilious Posted January 9, 2013 Author Share Posted January 9, 2013 I think it'll struggle with a bigger turbo. Have you seen any people running a T3/T4 on the standard ECU before? Nope i didnt even think someone would run a 1GGE+T, Been looking on the web for a while and couldnt find a decide forum or website with a 1GGE+T set-up ae. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuffaneilious Posted January 9, 2013 Author Share Posted January 9, 2013 MrDori ran a chinese spec T3/T4 on 1GGTE with a manifold he made. Only mod was rising rate fuel reg. It made a rather laggy 200kw atw, but fucking loved to rev. Mean, Did he run it on the standard 1GGTE ecu?? or aftermarket?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikuni Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Only reason for going to a single would be because of the yuck standard setup, but you'd want to take it easy at first. At least get it running on standard gear or a small single, then if it's going ok you could think about upgrading. A car that runs well for a long time making decent power is way more fun than a car that makes huge power... once. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuffaneilious Posted January 9, 2013 Author Share Posted January 9, 2013 Only reason for going to a single would be because of the yuck standard setup, but you'd want to take it easy at first. At least get it running on standard gear or a small single, then if it's going ok you could think about upgrading. A car that runs well for a long time making decent power is way more fun than a car that makes huge power... once. Indeed. Im not going to run a massive turbo firts off. Im planing on a simple setup and then to to a t3t4 ae. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTERUS Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Mean, Did he run it on the standard 1GGTE ecu?? or aftermarket?? Stock ecu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truenotch Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Sounds like you're on the right track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 too big turbo on an engine with no torque is not fun to drive. have driven a number of rb20 powered things with oversized china turbos, they mostly suck. power happens too late in the rev range, you have to cane it to get the most out of it, fine for a racetrack but no good for practical road use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuffaneilious Posted January 9, 2013 Author Share Posted January 9, 2013 Sounds like you're on the right track. Hopefully... Haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuffaneilious Posted January 9, 2013 Author Share Posted January 9, 2013 too big turbo on an engine with no torque is not fun to drive. have driven a number of rb20 powered things with oversized china turbos, they mostly suck. power happens too late in the rev range, you have to cane it to get the most out of it, fine for a racetrack but no good for practical road use Yeah. Theres not much point putting a large turbo on a engine like this cos youll be stringing its ring out to get it flying. Cheers. =Not much fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighLUX Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 No knock sensor on my 1st gen 1GGE but it looks like these a provision to fit one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuffaneilious Posted January 9, 2013 Author Share Posted January 9, 2013 No knock sensor on my 1st gen 1GGE but it looks like these a provision to fit one What happens if you dont run the set up with a knock sensor??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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