Jase Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 if you do the work yourself you'll save a shit tin of coin, and if that means buying an fe powered car removing and labelling the loom and engine, then the same with your ute do it. engine mounts etc are easy enough if need be, chock the engine etc in place allowing for mount sag and then tack together final welds from someone competant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou Posted May 3, 2011 Author Share Posted May 3, 2011 You guy's make it sound like childs play. To make it clear, i have no welding knowledge and have never attempted anything that before. My last car was easy as almost everything was interchangeable through the models and the years. I will say though that I would be interested in giving it ago but i would definately need the help of someone in the know. I had a quick look under and it appears I have a 10 bolt LSD diff, alls good there. Will find out what sort of gearbox it has tomorrow. I don't think an FE3 would bolt straight up to it from what I've read. As stated it could be as simple as changing the bellhousing to a S1 though. Fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizzl Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 your first conversion? id probably suggest to stick to something small so no firewall/tunnel mods are needed.. so mx5/fe3/4age/sr/e15t lol... what about a zetec?? plus nice turbo.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizzl Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 157065.htm WOW!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou Posted May 3, 2011 Author Share Posted May 3, 2011 Yeah first conversion, twas why i was initialy hoping for something that would go straight in. Just a passing thought, what about the EFI setup (and maybe turbo) off a E5T? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou Posted May 3, 2011 Author Share Posted May 3, 2011 http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Car-parts-accessories/Ford/Engines/auction-372157065.htmWOW!!! Whoa. The mrs would shit brix if I tried to buy that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizzl Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 cant believe no one has mentioned the all mighty PINTO would be a piss easy install too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou Posted May 3, 2011 Author Share Posted May 3, 2011 Isnt that just the same as the 626 2lt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizzl Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 nope..the motor in you ute if its a 2l is the same as an old rwd 626.. pinto(nicknamed) as in the mighty cortina/sierra/escort beasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoBilly Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 cant believe no one has mentioned the all mighty PINTO would be a piss easy install too i think that was because he wants more power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou Posted May 3, 2011 Author Share Posted May 3, 2011 nope..the motor in you ute if its a 2l is the same as an old rwd 626..pinto(nicknamed) as in the mighty cortina/sierra/escort beasty I have the 1600 which from what i read is the destroked 2lt 626 engine. How does the pinto compare to the F/MA from the 626? Do they share the same mounts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikuni Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 ^ pinto is pre-Ford/Mazda partnership and I don't think any common vehicles shared that engine, so if you were to consider a Pinto you might as well consider any other 2 litre engine, from any other manufacturer (Nissan SR20DE, Toyota 3S-GE etc) because it would likely be a similar amount of work to get it in. Just a passing thought, what about the EFI setup (and maybe turbo) off a E5T? Probably a world of hassle for very minimal gains, and thats if the engine is even the same series, which I wouldn't think it would be? My mate had a B2000 with a pinto in it years ago and it was so crap it wasn't funny. Would not recommend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizzl Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 yes, but the pinto is alot narrower up top to any dohc motor..so easier to install without fouling on clutch/brake parts just weigh up what you want. cheap motor rwd box usable power reliability easy to fit budget thatll chop a fair few options out.. make a list of possible engines that will work,and decide which one best suits you. id go for something that will fit without too much cutting and prefer to be same manufacturer... thats why i suggested the mx5 1600 or 1800 motor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 By far the easiest conversion is the Mazda 2l F/MA 626 engine. By the sounds it is what would really suit you, basically all other conversions will require.. - Engine mount mods - Sump mods - Exhaust mods - Gbox & driveshaft suitability/mods - Linkages mods - Piping/coolant mods - Wiring mods Dont waste your time with a Pinto, its better than the 2l F/MA but not enough to justify using it. Gaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighLUX Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Fe3 Dohc do come out as a rwd but badged as a Kia, if you were going to do a fe3 conversion this would be the easiest way to go as they have a CAS to run the spark so no cutting the firewall to fit a dizzy, have rwd orientated water outlets and a over the rocker cover style intake manifold. One being wrecked here: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Wrecked-cars/auction-373769414.htm These aussie cats used a kia engine in there courier and ran it off a mitsi loom and ecu http://www.mx6.com/forums/fe-dohc/234666-rwd-bell-housing-differences-slant-straight-new-project-pics-too.html edit: the blocks share the same castings as SOHC carby Fe/f8 engines found in most courier/b2000 utes or bongo/econovan I was doing a capella fe3 conversion into a bongo a while ago and fitted the powersteering pump,alternator,sump and pickup off the carby FE engine that was originally in the bongo to make life simple. This was when sportages were relatively new and expensive still otherwise I would of used a KIA engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizzl Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 we had a capella wagon as a company car with a gold top fe3.imho i thought it was a gutless piece of pooh. but that kia option looks good, if you dont mind spending coin on auto sparkys to get the wiring/ecu sorted,and efi pump/surge tank.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou Posted May 3, 2011 Author Share Posted May 3, 2011 OS-triumph- I know they come out in RWD format in the kia's. The gold top would be the block of choice due to the fact that it has far better internals than the kia model. The bigends etc are larger than that of a VR4 engine and are said to handle 300hp easy. That red boosted ute posted above has a factory bottem end and is running up around the 350hp mark. Also, my ute is pre 1983 and has the MA/NA mounting points which are different from the F8's. Meaning it would still need modification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighLUX Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Correct me if Im wrong but AFAIK there is no difference between the internals other than the water outlets on the head and different cams to a mazda fe3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 or just slam an sc12 blower onto the ma engine, would be interesting to see how it held up with lowish boost and a drawthrough carb, less cert required if you remove it at wof time (cough). also ma 1600's are cheap and popping a couple wouldn't hurt the bank too much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou Posted May 4, 2011 Author Share Posted May 4, 2011 Correct me if Im wrong but AFAIK there is no difference between the internals other than the water outlets on the head and different cams to a mazda fe3. You could be right but from what I've read the gold top is the most sought after. Wouldnt mind seeing a few more specifics. or just slam an sc12 blower onto the ma engine,would be interesting to see how it held up with lowish boost and a drawthrough carb, less cert required if you remove it at wof time (cough). also ma 1600's are cheap and popping a couple wouldn't hurt the bank too much I don't know alot about superchargers but would actualy been damn keen to give it a go! My last car had a pretty far from standard turbo setup so I think I could probably manage building something like that. The engine had a complete strip and rebuild last year and hasnt had a hell of alot of km's put on since then. Would this be a good buy? http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 656710.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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