tregath Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Has anyone seen http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... =216175057 Is this a common converison? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanebrain Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Undoubtedly someone will correct me if I'm wrong but some telstar motors were identical to that found in the B2200/Courier. Not sure about the 2 litre or twin cam versions though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKAZ Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Yeah I think your right there bro. The FE/F8 engines.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock-Lee Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 bit more info in the trademe thread\ http://www.oldschool.co.nz/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=2226&start=3060 have a look down the bottom of that page and onto the next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowlancer Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Isn't it the FS engine? aka the shit one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock-Lee Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 yuh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My name is Russell Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Someone on here buy it! Iv emailed him but no reply The FE3 is what I'm putting in my escort However I'm not familiar with these FS engine, was at pick a part today and saw two, in 95 telstars. Raiser i think it was said on the tradme thread that the FS engine were not very good. FE3 in an escort in OZ http://www.mx6.com/forums/fe-dohc/22249 ... t-fwd.html Mazda/Ford FE3: some usefull info -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The FE3 motor part# FE3N was in the following cars: 87-92 626 Capella FWD &AWD, 626 Capella Coupe (MX-6), 626 Capella Wagon FWD & AWD,and a very limited edition 626 Capella AWD Turbo, and the Ford Telstar. They never used this engine in the Probes. The engine design is based on the F series block, but a very similiar design of the B series engines, like the Mazda 323 GTX/GTR motor, the 90-94 Mazda Protege LX dual cam motor. The FE3 motor is a 2.0 liter 1998cc 121.9cu.in DOHC 16-valve engine. The engine came mostly normally aspirated, but turbocharge briefly for a Rally team. The FE3 came with a lofty 170hp@6000 rpm and 160ft/lbs of torque @4500rpm, and turbocharge came with a beefy 260hp and 283ft/lbs of torque with 13.5 psi stock. The normally aspirated engine came with 9.5:1 compression, and the limited turbocharge one came 8.8:1. Both engines had the same bore and stroke. The bore is the same as the F2/F2T motor, which is 86mm, 3.39cu in. The stroke is also 86mm, 3.39cu in, as the F2/F2T is 94mm, 3.70cu in. The F2/F2T and the FE3 block designs are the same, and both are F series blocks. The only difference in block are the deck height, and oil return hole from the cylinder head. One of the main difference is that the FE3 engine comes with oil squirters that is drilled into the main oil gallery that points to the bottom of each piston, and sprays oil on the pistons to keep them cool. Also the main bearing section is a little different as well. The FE3 engine comes with an all cast aluminum oil pan, and the windage tray is bolted in the oil pan, and the main bearing caps are bolted also with a main bearing brace that keeps the bottom end from flexing. Both turbo and non turbo FE3 motors come with this setup, the only difference is the compression. Some of the Rally guys I spoke with, they used the non turbo FE3 with turbos on them, and worked fine. The crankshaft is forged, and the rods are too. The rods are shorter than the F2/F2T motor, but they are a little beefer than the F2/F2T rods. The pistons are hyper like the F2T motor, but the pistons are full-floating. Which means that the piston, the piston pin, and the rods are free. Meaning that the piston can glide on the piston pin, and the piston pin can glide on the rod, and the rod can glide on the piston pin. Which reduces friction on a high-revving engine like the FE3. The factory redline on the FE3 is 7000 rpm, but the factory ECU was limited to 7400 rpm. But some people have rev them to 8800 rpm. The cam are very aggressive, with very high lift on both intake and exhaust valves. The exhaust cam has more duration, but both non turbo and turbo engines use the same cams. The cylinder head design is very B series engine like. But this is the only Mazda engine that come with 2 valve springs per valve. The springs are stiff, so you don't get valve float at high rpm's. The port design is 30% larger than the F2/F2T motor, and have a very downward valve angle port design. This is very good for turbocharging, Mazda did a very good job with valve angles with there engines, including the F2/F2T as well. The exhaust ports are 42% bigger than the F2/F2T motor. I have worked on Toyotas for a while. The major one I have worked on is the 93-98 Toyota Supra twin turbo. The FE3 exhaust ports are the same size, and the same angle. All the ports angle toward the middle of the engine, thus towards the turbocharger if fitted. The Toyota Supra is angled the same way. The valves are the same exact, I mean exact size of the 90-95 Nissan 300ZX twin turbo. The intake manifold is very unique. The intake manifold system comes with 2 plenums. The first one is the one you see outside the engine when you see it. The second one is for the VICS system. The VICS system is called Variable Interia Intake Control System. The system works very simple...As the engine is at idle up to 4400rpms, the VICS system has secondary plates in the intake runners. But when the engine is in this operating range of rpm's of idle up to 4400 rpm's, this extra air is held in the secondary plenum. So imagine if turbocharge? What ever pounds of boost you are running, that boost pressure is held in the secondary plenum chamber. The primary intake system works just like the F2/F2T engine. When the engine reaches 4500 rpms, the ECU opens the secondary plates, and release the held air or pressure to rush into the intake ports, and allow the engine to get air from two different ways, thus increasing the breathing on the engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treggo Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Whats the availability like of the fe3? They look pretty choice.. So mx5 boxes bolt up sweet? Anything epic fail about them to look at? Chur looks like a mean alternative to the more common conversions in fords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raizer Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Whats the availability like of the fe3?They look pretty choice.. So mx5 boxes bolt up sweet? Anything epic fail about them to look at? Chur looks like a mean alternative to the more common conversions in fords. FE DOHC's are easy as to get hold of, they came in Telstars and 626/Cappellas etc. *The official Mazda engine codes are FE-DE and FE-ZE, depending on output level, only Americants and douche's call them FE3s* Can use 929(Cosmo)/B2000 etc gearboxes behind them Think you can use a Bongo/929/B2000 etc bellhousing with a 6 speed mx5 box FTW And to take a shit load of hassle out of the conversion use a Kia sportage head on a Mazda/Ford bottom end to gar proper RWD water lines etc etc instead of adapting the gay FWD thermostat from the back of the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Anything epic fail about them to look at? Wouldnt call it epic fail but it does make for more work: Dizzy is at rear sticking out which means when you turn it for RWD use it sticks out the back into the firewall. Depending on your car will depend on what you can do fitment wise. There are fixs for this so not a major prob, just IMO the largest issue with them. Gaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tregath Posted May 2, 2009 Author Share Posted May 2, 2009 so a pintho is a easier option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My name is Russell Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 yes a pinto is dead easy and has been done 1000's of times to escorts before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treggo Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Pretty interested in these aye. Anyone heard of people carbing them and using megajolts etc for ignition? I have a mazda b1600 sitting in my paddock with a 2l sohc and 5 speed engine looks like Any chance the box is compatible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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