Ke36 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 ok trying to put my reat suspension back together in my ex lancer and it seems as though my newly lowered rear springs wont seat over the mounts for them on my newly converted hilux diff its almost like the coil diameter has shrunk or something there this stlye setup (stolen from a pic on trademe) are they meant to be a really tight fit so that once the car is settled etc they will basically jam in there? i dont remeber them being hard to take off so i assume there just meant to sit in the cup sorta thing and the tension keep them in there like every other car iv ever done springs were compressed so what the fucks going on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Long shot but perhaps the shop gave you someone elses springs when you picked up rather than yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuel Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 that spring seat on the new diff is definitely the same as the spring seat from the original diff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepers Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 in the process of compressing springs (getting them fucking hot) they may have relased some internal stresses in the steel causing the coil to close up a bit, if the interferance is less than 1mm you will have no trouble if you give it a bit of love with a dremmel. make sure you leave no sharp (stress concentrating) edges on the spring once youve finished and youll be away. if your talking about more than 1mm per side then i would be a bit hesatant, youll probably still be ok depending on the origional wire diamater of your spring. basically, if it looks ok, it usually is. latter, sheepers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 basically, if it looks ok, it usually is. Fuck that theory's failed me so many times in many a situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camel Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 basically, if it looks ok, it usually is. Fuck that theory's failed me so many times in many a situation My theory is if you cant fix it with a hammer or a grinder then its not fixable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ke36 Posted December 18, 2007 Author Share Posted December 18, 2007 Long shot but perhaps the shop gave you someone elses springs when you picked up rather than yours? that spring seat on the new diff is definitely the same as the spring seat from the original diff? yea these are the two options that i thought of, but i obviouslty didnt take exact measurements of the stuff before i took it in they look the same as when i gave them to respective shops trying to find some standard springs now to see if they will fit im assuming it is likely to be something to do with the springs rather than the diff mounts the springs are out by quite a bit tho so many little things going wrong right before xmas so ya have to wait fuckin ages to sort them basically, if it looks ok, it usually isnt. my life story with cars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rxtoy Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 is it going into a 1200 or 1600???? looks like an EX1800 diff to me, i know it will fit 1600 springs and car but maybe 1200's use smaller springs???? cheers Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteretep Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 he said newly converted hilux diff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ke36 Posted December 18, 2007 Author Share Posted December 18, 2007 nah thats just a sample pic had my 1200cc ex diff mounts put onto a hilux diff, that one there is a starlet converted hilux so my 1200 springs should fit into my 1200 mounts that they came out of but they dont Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rxtoy Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 that must be a hell of an interesting starlet, triangulated 4 link and disc brakes on a hilux diff. don't suppose you know more about the brake setup??? and if the springs and the seats are exactly the same and fit before then the springs must have shrunk, as unlikely as it seems. either that or something got mixed up, either seats or springs. cheers Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpr Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 starlets run that 4 link setup stock, mine runs same hilux setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepers Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 basically, if it looks ok, it usually is. Fuck that theory's failed me so many times in many a situation i guess it depends who's doing the looking then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ke36 Posted December 19, 2007 Author Share Posted December 19, 2007 that must be a hell of an interesting starlet, triangulated 4 link and disc brakes on a hilux diff.don't suppose you know more about the brake setup??? and if the springs and the seats are exactly the same and fit before then the springs must have shrunk, as unlikely as it seems. either that or something got mixed up, either seats or springs. cheers Matt has a 4agte in it prelude coilovers in the front i think that diff is for sale cos its getting/got a 4 link in it its s15 rear calipers with u13 bluebird discs yea im trying to find some standard springs now so that i can try and fit them, hopefully its the springs cos i think the mounts would be in a scrap metal yard by now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ke36 Posted December 21, 2007 Author Share Posted December 21, 2007 ok went and talked to a suspension place today both the spring place and the place iv got the diff done have closed for xmas/new year they think the springs definately dont match the mounts so one of them is wrong i think it is the springs though as they dont even fit in the rubber mounts for the top of them either anyone got a set lying around they can take a pic of and measure?im trying to buy a new set but no luck as of yet anyone able to post up a pic of the uderside of there lancer so i can compare spring mounts? might have to do a mish and get underone on the side of the road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Hey man, measured up my Sigma and Ex rear coils sent you a PM, see if it helps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrubb Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Ive got a completely stock EX if you need any more help. I dont know any technical stuff but can take pics and stuff if you need, just ask.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ke36 Posted December 30, 2007 Author Share Posted December 30, 2007 sweet trigger you are the man turns out his stock ex coils are roughly 1/2cm wider in the internal diameter than mine so mine must have closed up during the compressing or something sent you a reply trigger cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ke36 Posted January 5, 2008 Author Share Posted January 5, 2008 ok got some springs off a guy on the net they seat properly only thing is hey are way shorter and thinner than the other ones and also way shorter than the stock measurements tregger got these are 320mm under no load and triggers ones were 400mm there also about 2mm less thick at around 11mm dont think they are cut as the top coil is wound close to the other coils on both sides if you know what i mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Hey man, glad you got some springs sussed 4inches / 100mm is pretty low think if you use a spring shorter than about 300mm it wont be captive and you'll need shorter shocks LOTS of info on here about brands and part numbers etc Trigger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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