xsspeed Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 T56 from a new clubsport goes at around $3k + on TM I think the newer 6speed from the falcons goes for a bit more/is that a tremec box/cant remember/is expensive anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiemk Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 rb box and get an adapter plate made onto it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 6spd tremac from a FPV typhoon on TM for 2500 res, buy now 3k Pricey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuel Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 What I meant with the manifolds was that if the manifolds themselves will fit between the strut towers, all you need is a flange and pipe, the turbos could be mounted anywhere...... like on top of the cam covers with the oil draining straight into the cover. You're going to be tight on space at best. Then build your intake manifold around the space that's left. Just another useless suggestion.Something else I forgot, the 30M block doesn't have the oil squirters that the GTO TT block has. I don't know if that's important or not. Maybe find out one day.They can be put in though. Steve Going back to this, I pulled apart the TT motor this weekend and it doesn't have the oil squirters - is it only the generation 2 GTO TT 4-bolt mains block which does? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forced Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Going back to this, I pulled apart the TT motor this weekend and it doesn't have the oil squirters - is it only the generation 2 GTO TT 4-bolt mains block which does? Definately all TT blocks have squirters from the factory. There's always the possibility that the motor could have been rebuilt in the past using an N/A block. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuel Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 it's an early 1990 block, perhaps the very first of them didn't? It could have been a rebuilt N/A block with turbo gear, but everything looked original with original gaskets, bearings etc no sign of being rebuilt with any aftermarket gear. Where would they go anyway? there's no real room for them at the bottom of the V, and I had a quick feel around the base but nothing obvious which resembles oil squirters - I was expecting them to look somewhat the same as E39A oil squirters. Have you got a pic of them and where they go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forced Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Ahhh , they are very hard to see. If you pull the crank out, the top halves of the main bearings have 3 holes in them. the middle one is the feed. Some of the other holes feed the squirters, depending on position, from memory. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuel Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 I see - that would make sense as the top of the mains is pretty much right below two pistons. So how do you go about setting this up on the MIVEC block, drill some holes somewhere?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forced Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 You just need holes drilling of the right size,in the right place, then fit new ones. I think it's a job for the engine reconditioner, at least that's how I'd do it. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuel Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 yeah for sure. From looking on 3si they seem to have chronic problems with the stock squirters either clogging up and causing oil pressure problems, so they fit new ones which I'll do. This will be months and months down the line however, I still have to sort out mounting the bugger yet, and finding a damn gearbox for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanebrain Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 I'm sure you have already considered this but is it the same as the narrow or wide block 4g63? if so (and I know they aren't cheap) but there is a few custon bellhousings out there (eg the guys in the states that do T56's to narrowblock). I'm guessing the b2600 bell housing/rx7 box option wouldn't be strong enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuel Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 not even close haha - there is a big V at the top of the bellhousing also. The only V6 to share a similar pattern to 4 cylinders is the 6A1x series. edit, with pics: 6G72 all the rest, 4G63 wideblock is same as 4G54 shown below Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikuni Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 I'm confused by the logic of purchasing an expensive bellhousing so that you can run a random as shit expensive (think $2000-3000) gearbox? First option would have to be the V6 Triton ute obviously, and then the still over-priced but very strong Toyota boxes. Easy to get hold of and at $300-400 they seem link a far better option. A custom bellhousing or adaptor plate will only be afew hundred dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Yea you wont break w55/7/8's with phills weak power expectations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ke36 Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 yea an engineer should be able to make you a bellhousing to suit any gbox dont know any specifinc engineers but the quick drag racing guys etc need steel bellhousings and the 0trctn ex lancer i know had a custom bellhousing made for his 4g to w series gbox here in nz another thing to think of is shifter position no point getting something that fits etc to find out ur grabbing gears behind you (im probly telling you to suck eggs i know) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark105 Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 probably already been said but is there any mitsi auto bell housings you can get a hold of that bolt up to this? as auto bell housings are usually unboltable unlike some manual boxes then just adapter plate that shit up, run a Toyota box cause they will be cheaper then most options said and sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuel Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 yeah auto bellhousing would be the go if I have no luck finding a manual 2WD triton box or even bellhousing from manual 4WD box. spence W55 etc has a weak 5th gear, Sam's managed to make his wear down and I'm hoping for more power than his that's for sure. I'm wanting at least an increase in stock power which is 427Nm for the GTO TT engine, let alone MIVEC + TT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ke36 Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 2 speed powerglide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Its not weak its usually just the way people drive them in fifth its not like the gears worn itself beebs. There's 55's etc behind all sorts of race and skid cars with just as much and in many cases more power and torque than you and there fine. Some people lunch them but it takes abit, don't let Sam's fifth gear sway you as its not a super common thing and easily fixed if you have confidence to whip the box open. You have seen how Sam drives his car and its not going to break in a hurry. They are cheap and if you can't find a Triton one whats the better option? a 2-3k gearbox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr dori Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 W box, got lots of ratios to choose from, and also shifter positions. I havnt had an issue with mine and i dont really hold back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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