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On closer inspection the decision was made that the pitted exhaust valve stem was not going to be an issue, (Holden 6’s are not known for loosing valve heads) and that for the time being we’d run with the existing original Yella Terra valves. A light skim……. Valves & seats faced and lapped……… The Y/T Double valve springs were within spec so it was reassemble with new frost plugs and valve seals. I even shouted the old girl a new set of stainless manifold studs and brass nuts, the obligatory yellow paint will come later. And one more job is ticked off the list…...
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I'm enjoying you thread immensely. After 25 plus years of building and co-driving race cars it makes me want to stop running our currently overly complex high-tech sponsored car and get back to basics and start all over again. (What I'm really saying is your enthusiasm makes me feel bloody old! ). Watching the in car video's you're making some very obvious mistakes that result in your car controll being jerky & indecisive rather than the smooth but aggressive driving technique that makes a car run fast. I'm picking you've got great potential as a 'peddler' (your time at Levels confirms that) but you're at the stage when you need track time with an experienced person in the passenger seat teaching you the basics and pushing you very hard to be decisive, and in controll. If you were in Auckland I'd be volunteering my services, I'm by no means an expert but I have had the privilege of working beside some very experienced drivers over the years and can see how easy it would be to tweak your driving skills up to the next level. Try your local car cub or even just approach people on track day and ask them if they know of anyone who can come out for a few laps and give you some pointers. Look out for teams using track-days for car testing, you'll find most are approachable, (as you've probably already discovered petrol heads are a friendly bunch). Please don't take my post as being condescending, I'm just an old bugger with a bad habit of calling a spade a f***ing shovel. I'm also impressed with what you're doing. Cheers, Simon.
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SR2’s 1947 Vauxhall “Rigamortice” Discussion thread.
sr2 replied to sr2's topic in Project Discussion
Yeah Wayne's a bit of a character but he sure knows his stuff, paticuarly with older engines. He just rebuilt a 302 for a mates 68 Mustang restoration, it wasn't cheap but it's one sweet little motor. -
Dropped the head off at a local engine reconditioners to have the valves and seats machined. An engine shop with an EIP Vauxhall parked out front, a Model A chassis poking through the roller door and a Mk 1 Zephyr on the hoist has to be oldschool all the way. It’s not hard to spot they’ve been building engines here for 33 years (and it shows!).
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It's a simple single diaphragm mastervac, diagnosing the problem would take only a minute with the booster out of the car and possibly 3 with it still installed. I'm suprised you weren't given a more accurate quote; good to here it all worked out well.
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Sadly the only way to successfully run a roller on the 'drive' (i.e. tension) side of a chain drive is to use a sprocket as an idler pulley. It will need to be running on an idler shaft with bearings. Love your project however, good to see a fellow convert of the electrolysis rust removal method.
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The product you want is called Tergophos. I buy it from Target Cleaning Supplies. It's by far the best Phosphoric based product for rust removal. http://www.targetcleaningsupplies.co.nz/html/chemetall.php $54 for 5 liters is great value for money (you then dilute it with water).
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I've had good results with electrolysis for rust removal. See page 2 of my build thread for a description and pic's. //oldschool.co.nz/index.php?/topic/49842-sr2%E2%80%99s-1947-vauxhall-%E2%80%9Crigamortice%E2%80%9D-build-thread/
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Sometimes you just get lucky; I managed to score an old set of unused shaft mounted Yella Terra roller rockers for only $300. There was some confusion from the seller as to what head they would fit and I got away with the lowball offer from hell....... Although being the right ratio I was after (5:1) they were the later pedestal type mount as opposed to the earlier stud mount (i.e. my YT head). I’ve always felt that stud mounting roller rockers was a half-arsed compromise; I was always uncomfortable with how they twist so much you have to run pushrod guide plates. The solution was to get a local machine shop pull out the press fit rocker studs and machine 32 thou off the pedestals. Problem was I was then left with 3/8” holes to screw the 5/16” rocker mount cap screws into. The solution was to use Recoil Keyserts…….. I drilled and tapped the holes out to 5/16 UNC, turned up a DIY insertion tool (everyone needs a lathe)…… A quick dummy assembly and I’m a happy man……..
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Remember to radius the shoes to fit if you're machining the drums.
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Hi Ben, sounds like you're well on the way with diagnosing the problem. Remember that boosters are vacuum suspended (i.e. the have vacuum on both sides of the diaphragm at rest) and when actuated introduce the atmosphere to the rear chamber to assist the brakes. I’d put my money on a ruptured main diaphragm, pinch off the vacuum supply line with a pair of vice grips (wrap tape around the jaws to avoid damage) and confirm the engine issues disappear. The most likely cause is master cylinder that is leaking from the rear seal; the brake fluid gets into the booster and eats the diaphragm for breakfast! If the above test points to the diaphragm, pull of the master cylinder and look for signs of leakage and report back.
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Hi Ben, I'll need to know what car it's fitted to and then I can talk you through the correct diagnosis. Once that's established we can either fix the fault, buy a 2nd hand replacement part or pass the offending component to a local shop for repair. Cheers, Simon.
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Hydraulic handbrake and dual line proportioning valves
sr2 replied to jakesae101's topic in Tech Talk
Mate, sounds like a great project but you're rapidly painting yourself into a corner. My feeling is that you're delaying the inevitable which is simply fitting a dual master cylinder, adjustable balance bar pedal box. I'm ex the automotive brake industry (worked for PBR in Aussie and APPCO Brake & Clutch in NZ)and have been building race/rally cars for the last 20+ years, all I can say is there is a reason why all low tech (i.e. non traction controll/abs) rally cars run this setup. -
I've converted a few and have found it's far easier to hit Zebra, Pickapart etc.and take the whole mechanism rather than trying to adapt a motor to fit.
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Bedding in will have taken 3-4 stops from 100K. Let us all know how the new stoppers feel.
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Option 1: sounds like the path of least resistance and it just may get you through; a booster would allow you to run far harder linings than standard. Option 2: if parts are available and the conversion is straightforward it would defiantly give you the improvement you’re after. Even older solid rotors have a huge advantage over drums for heat dissipation. If the B1500 and B1600 rear cylinders are the same all you would need to do is use the B1600 master cylinder to get close with brake bias. You’re correct in that you can use 2 Hydrovacs on a split system (BMW did it years back but in my post I said "single"), you just can’t use one on a split system without radically changing the bias. You can also use two dissimilar hydrovacs on a single/or split system as a way of increasing front pressure for a disc conversion (eg a 5/8" Vh44 on the front and a 7/8" Vh44D on the rear). I did quite a number of such conversions in the eighty's, they were pretty trick for the times but to be honest they took up a hell of a lot of under bonnet space, were a bloody nightmare to plumb in and bleed and gave you a very average pedal! Avoid using a ‘proportioning valve’ if you can, most are really only pressure limiting valves and are no up to radically changing brake bias (e.g. going from drum/drum to drum/disc).
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Correct me if I'm wrong (haven't been under the bonnet of one for a long time) but doesn't the B1500 have a tandem master cylinder? If it does a VH44 (or any single hydrovac)wouldn't be suitable for boosting the original drums. Have to say I agree with Cletus on this one. Make sure all the hydraulics are in good condition, reline the shoes with medium Padgid compound (or similar) and make sure someone who knows their stuff machines the drums and radiuses the shoes to fit the individual drums. You might be suprised with the result.
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For what it's worth in 20 years of building/racing competition cars I've only once ever encounter gas build up issues, the idea that this could be an issue on the street (presuming you’re running good quality pads) isn’t even worth consideration. Our current race car has been reaching temperatures where we are cooking the ceramic buffer between the piston and the brake pad to the point where they are crumbling, and I'm still running non slotted or drilled rotors (still with no hint of gas build up). My feeling is that there is a lot of aftermarket misinformation (i.e.B/S) out there being pushed by 3rd party suppliers. Originally Rotors were only drilled to reduce un-sprung weight, great idea if you’re running a state of the art single seater but probably irrelevant for most other applications. Yes slotting can help control gas build up but unless you’re experiencing it all you’re doing is adding potential stress risers and reducing pad/rotor area per revolution. It would be great there was a magic bullet for rotor selection but there isn’t. The only advice I can give is that you will never regret buying quality components from reputable well established suppliers, (AP, Brembo, etc.).
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I'm enjoying your project and your meticulous approach to detail, you're doing a great job of writing it up as well. What's your technique for cleaning aluminium inlet manifolds? (I'm considering sand blasting mine).
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No offence intended mate but after reading your thread all I can say is I'm impressed with your obvious fab skill (love your project) but you need to ditch the LVVA lapdog persona. The LVVA is a self perpetuating "old boys whiskey club" whose primary agenda is justifying their own existence. It's the guys on the front line doing the certifying who are trying to ensure the safety of modified vehicles on NZ roads. (Give credit where credit's due).
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Rubbish, ackerman is determined by the relationship between steering arm angle and wheelbase. (Do your homework).
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Mate, get you facts right before commenting; i.e. you're full of shit. If you do a little research you'll find despite our differences of opinion both Cletus and myself have both been involved with modifying cars for decades. I can vouch for the fact that despite being at loggerheads on most issues (LVVA in particular!) the last thing either of us would compromise on is vheicle safety.
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Moving the rack sideways and using a lock spacer will reduce the amount of available steering lock. Is there any ruling re the minimum amount of lock required?
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What he said, (can't believe I'm agreeing with cletus for once!). Moving a steering rack in any direction will change your steering geometry, don't do it.