Jump to content

Raizer is losing the plot with Scooters!


Raizer

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 191
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

1 minute ago, tortron said:

what about that bolt that fell out of the engine at 0:09

Lol you weren't supposed to notice that!

 

/Na, clutch cover is just sitting in place with only one of the 4 screws holding it still, that one was just sitting in it's hole.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Lol fuck, been talking with Jonny, sounds like the squish etc I set it up to was pretty much where he found the knock limit of avgas, that'll do it!

Guess making a couple combustion chamber inserts with lower compression will be a great first project to learn how to use my new lathe.

 

 

/Who's got a hook up on drums of methanol? :badgrin:

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

27 minutes ago, tortron said:

could still have a funky flame front causing pinging/pre ignition

 

My bike seems a lot happer with some extra clearance

Re-measured the squish before and dunno why, but I measured a few points of the squashed solder and it gets tighter towards the centre rather than looser, that could have an effect!

Jonny had a different piston in it at one stage, guessing he set the combustion chamber up to match an earlier piston.

So I'm thinking of attempting to cut a new squish angle to match the piston I'm using and also skim the mounting flange to gain a touch of compression while I'm at it.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Let me preface this by saying I have next to zero idea WTF I'm doing with a lathe!!!

 

IMG_20201108_131511.jpg.858ab22adfff43ac20f501b235113c8f.jpg

Got it to about .05 run out, after about 45minutes fucking about!

Did mange to get the face dead on though in much less time

IMG_20201108_131512.jpg.9f3b29b79f9fb2bfc2cfc7e114483a38.jpg

 

Took a bit of a guess at the angle/did a fair few dry runs just eyeballing the tool path.
Couldn't get anything close to a clean cut though, the carbide tip wanted to leave gouges, so yeah spent a while with a file then different grits of paper

IMG_20201108_133308.jpg.3293b1558e511c3d4f99ea6b6670b97f.jpg

IMG_20201108_134845.jpg.bb700608e91db3fbf8f973a4c2584ede.jpg

 

 

Have ended up with a squishband starting at 1.09mm tapering to 1.16mm, in the correct direction this time haha!
If I had more confidence I'd be attempting a 0.34 skim off the flange to drop that down to .75 squish, but for now I'm going to see how it goes as is.

Fingers crossed this actually helps ha

  • Like 5
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Have got 0.10 to 0.12 clearance up the top of the bore, should be more like .05 to .06 really.
Looked at FR80 and A80 pistons, but the compression heights and lengths rule them right out.
I'm already running a +1.50 TM75 or TS75 piston, looks like TKRJ used to also do +1.75 and + 2.00 kits but I'm having absolutely zero luck finding even a part number for either of them.

Yamaha Beluga 80cc looks to be the closest I can find, would need 3.2mm taken off the skirt and the head would need about .3 less gasket, but they aren't the most common piston either and it'd put the bore right at the max that I'd be comfortable with.

 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Spent most of yesterday and last night scrolling through more piston catalogues than I care to think about trying to find a match, zero luck though.

Emailed TKRJ and IKYP in Japan as well as Wiseco, J.E and Pro-X about +1.75 or +2.0 TS75 pistons, TKRJ said they used to make them but I'm 20 years too late, IKYP don't deal with the public.

Wiseco said no problem at all, but it'd come under "custom piston" so minimum order is 12 and $$$.   No one else got back to me.

 

@GuyWithAviators likely has a worn out PW80 piston for mock up/experimentation as they look close.

 

DS80 and JR80 use the same piston and are damn close, but the "compression height" is around 3mm lower which would fuck my port timing completely.

So current plan is put it back together with the current piston and ride it while I try to track down a U70/TS75/RV75/A80 cylinder to use as a donor and build it around a 49mm DS/JR80 piston.

IMG_20201110_155949.jpg.dcb2e8485af61493d504cff54b165154.jpgIMG_20201110_160028.jpg.6a96e97728bf487706f7a0d842224a28.jpgIMG_20201110_160131.jpg.661a9f8ea7c56ce03545eae4f4333597.jpg

Screenshot_2020-11-10-16-17-21-820_com.android.chrome.thumb.jpg.cbfa2d7a235e6bf90b929918badcbf22.jpg

  • Sad 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Gave it a good amount of hard nang this morning, didn't feel like it was trying to lock up once, so I think it's safe to say the new rod kit is good lol
 
I paid for a carb with the quick change jetting cap, I'm going to use the quick change cap!!
IMG_20201111_110644.jpg.706c5f78a9deddd6a1302820fecd3bbf.jpg
IMG_20201111_110755.jpg.72baccaa84397de1a4682ac4bcdfd70b.jpg
 
Also think I've sound a solution to my piston slap woes, have come across a few NOS Taiwanese kits here in NZ!
IMG_20201110_143919.jpg.f730d866e4724d7bd29fdb72bc35e442.jpg
 

Have put my hand up for 2 for now, one is going to just be a bit of an experiment test bed, plan to attempt removing the liner, adding the extra ports like my current one and seeing if I can make a head on the lathe and get it to run.

I know with the Taiwanese kits that I shouldn't expect great things from the piston and to keep the compression and RPM on the lower side of fun, but if the liner is decent enough there is factory size (47mm), +0.50 and +1.00 TKRJ pistons in stock with a supplier here in NZ which I know will take the abuse I have planned for it.

 

IF I manage to pull that off then the second one will be getting a new Wiseco or Melling cylinder sleeve and 49mm Wiseco piston from a late model 80cc and another new head, that should give quality oversize piston options for years to come.

 
IMG_20201114_114003.jpg.18fda10d6fe1a3b597c9765d9e45207c.jpg
 
  • Like 8
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...