antz Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Never thought I'd ever be asking this question but this got me stuck. Ive never had to remove front springs which aren't mcpheresons struts, normally strut comes out, spring compressors, losen the shocks, all done. But not here, I jacked up the hub, took the shock out, the whole thing dropped quite a bit lower, tried compressing the spring as much as I could, but its still tight as in there. I dont want to cut it as I need to size it up to something common that matches this so I can lower it. But no idea how to actually compress the spring enough to pull it out. Has anyone come across this before? Any help would be appreciated. Attempted spring compressing, its not happening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seedy Al Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 What sort of car are you dealing with here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoKer Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 unbolt whatever is at the top? What kind of car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antz Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 Hey it's a 66 Rambler Classic 770. Just came across a post here: http://theamcforum.com/forum/rambler-classic-front-suspension_topic4109.html 3rd post down says you gotta jack up the opposite rear corner to put load on the spring, then somehow hook it , etc. Hmm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antz Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 1 minute ago, JoKer said: unbolt whatever is at the top? What kind of car? Nope nothing at the top. Flat plate. There is a single bolt but nothing can be pulled upwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllTorque Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Pics of the rest of the suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antz Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 From the front: From the back: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antz Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 When I remove the shock, the bit (no idea what it is, its in the last pic - like a wishbone but its made of 2 separate sections) - it sits on the chassis rail and prevents the whole thing dropping further down. I suspect I may need to undo the steering control arm and then perhaps try and undo this wishbone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nominal Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Looks like you need this tool http://www.skidmore.edu/~pdwyer/amc/jacobspringtool.htm Then jack up the opposite corner to compress the spring and hook the took into the holes on the spring cuts. This keeps the spring compressed so it will come free when you jack the front up. Don't go dismantling the suspension with the spring still loaded 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nominal Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Or, make your own http://www.skidmore.edu/~pdwyer/amc/trunnion.htm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antz Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Nominal said: Looks like you need this tool http://www.skidmore.edu/~pdwyer/amc/jacobspringtool.htm Then jack up the opposite corner to compress the spring and hook the took into the holes on the spring cuts. This keeps the spring compressed so it will come free when you jack the front up. Don't go dismantling the suspension with the spring still loaded Mint thanks man. Yeah reading over that AMC forum reply seems like this might be the only way to do it properly (and safely). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nominal Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, antz said: Mint thanks man. Yeah reading over that AMC forum reply seems like this might be the only way to do it properly (and safely). Yes, does look like a weird design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66gt Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 That's got fuck up written all over it if you don't remove it the correct way. Can see a spring going into orbit. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antz Posted December 10, 2017 Author Share Posted December 10, 2017 8 hours ago, 66gt said: That's got fuck up written all over it if you don't remove it the correct way. Can see a spring going into orbit. Yup I figured the same so have chucked it all back how it was for now. Gonna get that tool either shipped over or will make one, and will follow their directions on how to take it out safely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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