coldturkey Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 If there was a big storm and the roof wasn't fixed down then you could lose it. That's probably what the concern would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteretep Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 wat are you talking about 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanfels Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Did the plans show that the roof wasnt connected to the container? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldturkey Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I don't know do people still listen to me 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelies Posted January 30, 2014 Author Share Posted January 30, 2014 i've built it as a normal house, not temporary. ie standard building code applies. all my cars are non-legit, wanted the house to be legit. council dont care what anyone thinks, they need it in writing with numbers or gtfo yup 'tried and true' seems to be the only way on a budget, if you dont have necessary skills for doing all that jazz yourself roof is pretty much a carport, braced to the box. yep lawrence it's in a high wind zone, roof will take off. it's entirely open, just a roof on sticks what cubastreet said, 'chuck a container on a bit of land, bobs your uncle' is somewhat fanciful, in the city at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanfels Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Why do you need to brace it back to the container? High wind zone isnt that bad, most places these days are made to a High wind zone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My name is Russell Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Why do you need to brace it back to the container? High wind zone isnt that bad, most places these days are made to a High wind zone Picture number 14 is directly opp manu's. and most the rest at the end of his road/uncleJakes. i also live in Brooklyn and i sometimes wonder how my house is still standing. http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/world/storm-batters-wellington-20130621-2ommh.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Even so, can't a simple wooden structure, with appropriately sized joists and rafters (to deal with the span) and suitable fasteners/windstraps (to deal with the wind lift) be used in lieu of bracing to the container itself. Not saying this will be less work, as would likely required a few posts (if you dont have them already) at centres to get appropriate spans. Wind straps and proper fastening of the roof to purlins/rafters/whatever the detail is should see it no different to any carport/veranda. /Just jump on the top of container and bare some metal weld brace tags on and spray paint it red oxide primer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickity Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I guess if its braced to the container you don't get a weird break between the carport and the house that water pours through? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelies Posted January 30, 2014 Author Share Posted January 30, 2014 yep that'll prbabbly happen, burning/melting the insulation is the biggest problem i can see. oh that gap between roof and box will still be there, i didnt want to fill it. storage for roadkill and hookers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 you will have to explain that Tara, I cannot visualise what you mean? the roof covers the whole deck and is a double roof over the top of the container itself is it not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 yep that'll prbabbly happen, burning/melting the insulation is the biggest problem i can see. JB weld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKtrips Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 If you weld to the corners where the twist locks will go I would hazard a guess that it is far enough away from the insulation to not be an issue with burn through and also that area is thick as all fuck so will be a sweet heatsink. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickity Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Oh. Yeah, that would make sense. Im my head it stopped at the container rather than carrying over. Which is silly. Having it just sort of stand over the top without being connected does seem odd though. Like the house has sort of been parked inside another structure. If you attach them they become a single structure with two elements, rather than separate entities. Brain likes that better. /I might be a little strange. Just go with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 See end elevation here. My suggestion for avoiding putting the braces on the container itself is to just put some posts along front and rear of container - keep roof at same height and pitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My name is Russell Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Is this not the Architects problem?, he should of detailed it and foreseen required cleats. jump up and down and do a burnout in his carpark with carry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanfels Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Yup, i like Steves idea. You may have to pump the rafter size up 50mm and cost a little extra but you will make that back in not having to do extra fixings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slacker.cam Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I like KK's idea because at the end of the day it looks like welding is going to be the only option. Damn pen pushers! If you weld to the corners there's a huge amount of heat sinking. Plus you could always weld it as a series of tacks or stitches, like you would on a piece of sheet steel to reduce warping. Cool it down after each stitch or something? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelies Posted January 30, 2014 Author Share Posted January 30, 2014 yep, i'd like to avoid welding but when it comes down to it whatever gets me a place to live the quickest will happen. up side is i have the brackets pre-painted and there should be a tin of touch-up paint somewhere with the container. in which case heat sinking, cooling etc will all come into play. /point and shoot metal hot glue yes it was the architect/engineers problem, which they solved. 'weld some shit on it'. they dont know about container transport requirements though, hence the situation. steve you mean front and rear as in the ends of the container? or front and rear of the house, as in front has doors, rear to bank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 front and rear of house, you already have the rear ones, ms paint in 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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