japawagons Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 So... Basically my plan in the hopefully not to distant future is to convert my crown to a 6 cylinder diesel engine, something along the lines of a 1HD. Anyway the major hurdle that I can see other than the outrageous price is the transmission. If you are not familiar with Toyota's these are the Landcruiser engines that are only released with 4WD transmissions attached. Are you able to convert a 4WD gearbox to RWD by basically removing the transfer case off the end of it and maybe fitting a tail shaft arrangement perhaps off another box? Or would the more obvious answer of either a custom bellhousing on a RWD gearbox e.g W series or R154 box, or an adapter plate arrangement be the go? I've had a semi thorough google and haven't found any info relevant to my plans at all... Thoughts, Criticism, Suggestions and Ideas are encouraged... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaMpylobacter Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 brian howatt of howatt engineering, the guy that's done kickers/beaver steels down in Welly, apparently makes all the bits/does the conversion for removing the transfer case from hilux 4x45 w series for use in RWD situations. might be worth giving him a call to see if he could do it with a 'cruiser setup. He also may be able tp advise on making up an adaptor plate to let you bolt up to a w or r154 box, or perhaps even to a B-engine box form a dyna or something? alternatively, these toyota coasters (hdb51) and perhaps some slightly earlier ones roll a 2wd 1hdt setup. never seen a manual one yet but they might be out there. perhaps see if that kayatonka guy could track you a box down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRK Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 ^was heaps of manual ones of those in port douglas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japawagons Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 Oh sweet, That's amazingly useful information. I honestly didn't know they had brought a 1HD set up in anything RWD, I shall make some inquiries and see what kinda information I can find... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranter Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Are you able to convert a 4WD gearbox to RWD by basically removing the transfer case off the end of it and maybe fitting a tail shaft arrangement perhaps off another box? Not sure with the Toyota stuff but with the Mitsubishis the main shaft is way to long to do this and it becomes uneconomic. Won't a Coaster gearbox be way to large/heavy in a car? Can't remember what they look like. I'd go the kz engine with an auto myself but that'll probably look strange in the engine bay. Those hz engines are unstoppable so I wouldn't think there was a large second hand market for them. (just did at least my 65th service on a customers one, still haven't removed rocker cover yet) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaMpylobacter Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 bit of a worry if you're not checking tappets after like, 650'000km+. lowl. coaster or dyna boxes will be reasonably large. probably not outlandishly so, though. flywheel end will be pretty big i expect. kz would be dumb. nothing like the sound of a diesel 6. plus it will just rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranter Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Yeah defintely agree was suggesting it for ease only. Its done almost 900,000kms he is not that good at getting them done on time, got to get a million kms before any serious work, hasn't had clutch either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaMpylobacter Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 badass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePog Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I have been looking at vx landcruisers with the 1hdt, they fucking rule. My Merc needs one tbh. Yet to find a sound vx for sensible money tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japawagons Posted September 24, 2012 Author Share Posted September 24, 2012 Yeah VX's are going for stupid money really... Which is a shame a 24 Valve 1HD would be the go... Ease of installation is not what I am going for to be honest, I am after a 6 Cylinder as it's what it will be replacing and 1HD's go nuts even in a Landcruiser format. I am just interested to see what it would be like in something like a crown chassis... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 what about the gearboxes that they put in the 2wd dodge rams/f250s etc.? I dont know anything about them but thats just what came to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingbrick Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 just giving food for thought. consider the td42 from Nissan. they are 4.2 l straight 6 and LOVE boost. guys get very very impressive power out of them. there are cheap and awesome cast turbo manifolds available. best part? diesel bell housing mounts it to the 300zx auto trans. the best place to ask is probably ore.co.nz as those guys live and breathe this stuff and will surely have all answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaMpylobacter Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 was going to say: bang for your buck and ease of modification a td42+t might be the go. bolt up to a 2wd that's worth fuck all could be win too. or be the man, build a tuff as fook 1pz+t and be more awesome coz you've got 5 cylinders and sound awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japawagons Posted September 24, 2012 Author Share Posted September 24, 2012 I did think of the 1PZ for a bit but that was all of 2 Seconds... Nissan, No. Unfortunately I'm a pedantic prick about criss crossing manufacturers. I think it's the biggest sin of them all. But only for my own vehicles for the most part, when other people do it it's usually awesome... Weird I know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaMpylobacter Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 shit yeah i'm of the same mind. push forward with th 1hd could go 1hz with a turbo? may be easier/cheaper to get hold of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japawagons Posted September 24, 2012 Author Share Posted September 24, 2012 I shall keep an eye out for availability of both, currently can't justify the coin needed to purchase a 1HD set up so alternative options could be the go... I really hope to make it a reality sometime though I hate to be full of hot air... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaMpylobacter Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 yuhyuh. 1hd unless it's fooked seem to be hard to come by huh. do a grubby 2ht? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-par ... 230691.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japawagons Posted September 24, 2012 Author Share Posted September 24, 2012 I've been keeping an eye out in Turners damaged vehicle auctions. Thought maybe buying a whole Landcruiser and stripping it down and selling all the other parts might be the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Considering the filthy toyota tax on cruiser parts, that's not a dumb idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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