Scrubb Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Hi guys. I'm bidding on a 1200cc Lancer EX on Trademe, and my plan was to change all my bits (engine, gearbox/drivetrain, dash etc) from my crashed 1600 into the 1200, but I have just realised the wiring may be different so I can't use my old dash. Changing the wiring loom sounds like a huge job. I don't know. I've never needed to deal with the loom before. Is this required and how easy is it to do? If you know any more issues I may need to be aware of please let me know. Should I try and get my bid cancelled and look for a 1600 car instead or should it be fairly easy to achieve this? Thanks Stephan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2JZKP Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 to put the 1600 in the 1200 you will have to bolt the engine x member in as the mounts are different, but since you allready have it its a easy job, unsure of the dash wiring side of things but id say from when i had my 1600 gsl ex it had all the gauges in it, so id say youd have to swap looms as the 1200 wont have the extra gauges the 1600 has on the pluys side if you end up doing it and swap the 1600 into it you can then from there go up to the 2 litre 4g63 which will bolt onto the 1600 xmember Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex lancer wat! Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 What gearbox do you use when you put the 2l the gsl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuel Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 if you have the 1600cc donor car then it wouldn't be much of an issue going into the 1200cc shell - just unplug wiring loom required and fit. You may have to pull the dash out though but that's not a huge job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrubb Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 OK, so when I change the dash cluster and clock from my 1600 donor to the 1200 It's just a matter of unplugging and swapping the looms? I was under the impression I would have to replace the wiring throughout the car and splice a million wires which would make the purchase not really worth it for me. Probably better off finding another 1600cc car in that case? This info so far is very helpful, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy86 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 to put the 1600 in the 1200 you will have to bolt the engine x member in as the mounts are different That's funy, when i bought a 1600 engine for my 1200cc's of pure fury lancer years ago it was just a straight drop onto the crossmember. Do the 1600's use different mounts between the models?? At that stage it didn't appear that way and was straight bolt in and play. also used a 5 speed celeste gearbox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuel Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Are we talking about the Lancer EX or the earlier shape Lancer? The Lancer EX 1200 has the 4G11 with the offset mounts while the earlier Lancer has the 4G36 1200cc which is basically a smaller bore/stroke version of the 4G32 1600cc. Some Jap import model Lancer EXs came with the 4G31 1500cc engine also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrubb Posted February 3, 2012 Author Share Posted February 3, 2012 I'm talking about my current Lancer EX with a 4G32 and I'm looking at buying a Lancer EX with a 4G11 which I want to swap all my better gear into from my current car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuel Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I was replying to the post above me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
be4ver Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 For the dash wiring there is a section that you can remove that unplugs at about the drivers side headlight and you can then pull it inside. then there is about 10-15 plugs under the dash to unplug as it splits off to various parts of the car. It's not a very big bit of loom and it will have the different dash plugs ya need and the clock if ya didnt have one before. I just pulled it out of the ex I'm wrecking to put in my good ex which was once a 4g11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrubb Posted February 3, 2012 Author Share Posted February 3, 2012 be4ever - Does that mean to change my instrument cluster and clock I would only need to swap that one piece of wiring and leave the rest alone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSM Garage Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Yeah, you should be sweet by doing that. Its not a 5 minute job but if you take your time you can do it easily with no troubles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
be4ver Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 yip it a bit of fucking round unplugging cunty plugs n shit but easier than figuring out what all the wires are and changing the plugs over to suit. gotta take the fuse and relay panel out too thats connected to it. this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy86 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 "Fuel" - Sorry yeah talking baout the EX lancer suqare ahape as mine was an 82 model, was straight bolt up for the 1600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuel Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 it shouldn't have been! the 4G11 1200cc definitely has different mounts to the 4G32 1600cc - sure it wasn't an import with the 1400cc 4G33 motor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiRtYnIgMa Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 your right fuel. 4g11 engines that i have ever seen have different cross members. i have only ever had g62b powered ones and 4g32 powered ones. probly some odd ball import thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy86 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Pretty confident it was an nz new 1600, definitely pulled alot better with the new engine in it. We're talking a few years ago now so may have got my wires crossed. Just struggling to think what i'd done if it was a straight bolt in or if i did change the mounts and bolted up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuel Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 the 4G11 mounts on the crossmember are literally offset and are on opposing sides of the crossmember while the 4G32 has the mounts parallel to each other. There's no way the 4G11 engine mount brackets would have attached to the 4G32 block either. Either would have been custom mounts (what tank did to put his 4G63 into 1200cc EX) or 1600cc crossmember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ton Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Having the same issue with the EX I bought. It was factory 1200 4g11 but previous owner had fitted 1600 4g32 and not fitted a 4g32 crossmember so engine mount on passenger side doesnt line up. Im still waiting for someone on here to hook me up with a 4g32 crossmember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiRtYnIgMa Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 are the 1800 turbo ex cross members the same Fuel? ive never checked? ive got one of them somewhere in a shed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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