LingLing Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Hi all. I'm trying to find a 4age engine to rebuild What ones should I get? I heared it's best to get a rearwheel drive one. but what cars do they come from? There are many 20valve sliver top around. And Today I had a look a 16valve one from ae92 sprinter trueno Apex. Got a smoking bad water pump. So, any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanfels Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 from what i understand, the smallports from the ae92s are the best 4ages so i would grab that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LingLing Posted November 20, 2009 Author Share Posted November 20, 2009 from what i understand, the smallports from the ae92s are the best 4ages so i would grab that 1 But, it's a automatic tho... ae92 is front wheel drive. and why is it better than the old ones(rear wheel drive ones)? Is the Ae92 4age the red top(the only red part is the 16 Valve letters, the rest is silver)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toucan Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/phil.bra ... %20RWD.htm http://www.billzilla.org/4agstock.htm Only the original 16v bigport came out RWD, but any can be made RWD fairly easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LingLing Posted November 20, 2009 Author Share Posted November 20, 2009 Is this red top (3rd gen)? or red and black (2nd gen)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS5620 Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 good information on the differences between types, red, blue, silver, black HERE http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/phil.bra ... %20RWD.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toucan Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Can't see your image. 2nd gen has exposed leads like http://www.toycrazy.net/mark/pics/25srengbay.jpg 3rd gen has a cover in which the leads run underneath http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i173/ ... C00009.jpg Don't rely on the colour of the writing on the cam covers, they can be swapped or painted. Best way to tell; first gen: tvis, 3 ribs on intake side 2nd gen: tvis, 7 ribs on intake side 3rd gen: no tvis, smaller intake runners, 7 ribs on intake side go for a first or 3rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage Grumble Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Depends what you intend to do with it, IMO: Big port blue top = super easy to slap in a RWD, has good low down grunt, but lowest power out put of the 4ages. not good to turbo because of light internals. Small port red top = best NA motor to do up if you get the one with the smaller con rods, and if you get the one with the big con rods (same as a ZE) its great to turbo because its strong as shit and has MAP sensor. Silver top = they are cheap, strong, good NA, and also make a good turbo motor, but have AFM rather than MAP, but you would need an after market ecu any how, so not a prob. Black top = best standard motor, but pricey, and the con rods are tiny, so not good to turbo, or for high power NA. Super charged = Best motor to turbo. Thats a general sort of over view, but I kinda think silver top is the best all rounder and bang for buck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LingLing Posted November 20, 2009 Author Share Posted November 20, 2009 see it now?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanfels Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Thats a bigport red top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LingLing Posted November 20, 2009 Author Share Posted November 20, 2009 Thats a bigport red top so, I want to rebuild it, not good as small port or 4agze then? How much should i pay for it? complete engine, but auto, water pump is fxxked... or I can take the whole car, but plate is dead, only good for parts(good condition tho). are the parts on ae92 easy to sell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpr Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 what are you going to do with it? the bigport redtop is the most boring of them all. its basicly a bluetop with heavy internals so doesnt rev quite as well. but all depends what your going to do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truenotch Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 What year is that motor in the pic? Some of the Bigport redtops had a 7 rib block but still had the smaller bearings. Most AE82 ones have the bigger bearings. Smallport Redtop is the motor to use. They are leaps and bounds ahead of any Bigport or 20v IMO . The smallport is easy to pick out by it's intake manifold, they have 4 runners instead of 8 and no TVIS badge on the top: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LingLing Posted November 22, 2009 Author Share Posted November 22, 2009 The car is 1987. Yeh, I guess I will leave this one and hunt for others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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