Gaz Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Can anyone tell me about this brand or had any experiances? I want to buy but its cheap, almost too cheap and Im weary. Welcome to DM Clutches We are the New Zealand Dealer for F1 racing clutches. We speacialise in replacement and high performance clutches for most makes and models please ask. Brands include F1 racing,Excedy, ACT, Sachs ,LUK This auction is for a stage 3 6 puck ceramic racing clutch for a CA18det s13 200sx 180sx silvia etc rwd --------Kit includes---------------- F1 Racing Stage 3 Heavy-Duty Pressure Plate F1 Racing Stage 3 Copper Ceramic 6-puck Disc (225mm, 24 spline) Release Bearing Pilot Bushing Alignment Tool Installation Guide ---------Specifications------------ The 6-puck copper ceramic (also known as MIBA) disc features 12 high-coefficient friction pads that are resistant to slippage and ensures long lasting life. The heavy-duty sprung center unit boasts heat treated springs and retainer rivets for the maximum power and durability. The F1 Racing pressure plate features special single diaphragm design to increase clamp load. It features induction hardened diaphragm, CNC machined castings, stronger drive straps and rivets. F1 Racing pressure plate provides smooth and precise feel with easy modulation. All F1 Racing pressure plate is load tested on a special testing tool for quality assurance.In order for these clutches to perform to their optimum they must be bed in over 1000kms and installed on a machined flywheel These clutches are rebranded Daiken Exedy clutches.Save hundreds on the retail price. These clutches have a warranty against faulty workmanship and materials which is held by the manufacturer this doesn't guard against incorrect installation and failure to be run in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKAZ Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I want to buy but its cheap, almost too cheap and Im weary. First impressions are normally correct. Welcome to DM Clutches We are the New Zealand Dealer for F1 racing clutches. We speacialise in replacement and high performance clutches for most makes and models please ask. Brands include F1 racing,Excedy, ACT, Sachs ,LUK This auction is for a stage 3 6 puck ceramic racing clutch for a CA18det s13 200sx 180sx silvia etc rwd --------Kit includes---------------- F1 Racing Stage 3 Heavy-Duty Pressure Plate F1 Racing Stage 3 Copper Ceramic 6-puck Disc (225mm, 24 spline) Release Bearing Pilot Bushing Alignment Tool Installation Guide ---------Specifications------------ The 6-puck copper ceramic (also known as MIBA) disc features 12 high-coefficient friction pads that are resistant to slippage and ensures long lasting life. The heavy-duty sprung center unit boasts heat treated springs and retainer rivets for the maximum power and durability. The F1 Racing pressure plate features special single diaphragm design to increase clamp load. It features induction hardened diaphragm, CNC machined castings, stronger drive straps and rivets. F1 Racing pressure plate provides smooth and precise feel with easy modulation. All F1 Racing pressure plate is load tested on a special testing tool for quality assurance.In order for these clutches to perform to their optimum they must be bed in over 1000kms and installed on a machined flywheel These clutches are rebrandedDaiken Exedy clutches Save hundreds on the retail price. These clutches have a warranty against faulty workmanship and materials which is held by the manufacturer this doesn't guard against incorrect installation and failure to be run in. just random spelling mistakes make it sound dodgy to me. Nuthin wrong with the product though. bro had one of these setups in stockcar..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m house Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 gaza, cheap dose not = good if i was you i would stick with wot i no, my m8 has a f1 clutch set up in hiz kar and it cost him a pretty penny, if they were that good u would have herd about them and ppl would have them, myself i wouldnt buy a heap of shit f1 rip off clutch thats gana shit its self afta a hard day of raceing/burnouts millz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 its not imitation. F1 Racing is the brand of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testament Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 if you want a clutch - www.clutch.co.nz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 I do want a clutch as std one wont do.. But I dont really wanna spend $1000. This one is cheap.. Cheap enuf to try I guess. Maybe Ill just go with it and see from there, it should handle the power just might be a bit heavy for the street. Gaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m house Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 oh my bad,even still gaz i would rather go with a excedy they kane take a fuckn raping, they make sum good clutchs, i would stand by them, my 2 sense worth any way, millz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatestben Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I'll price one up tomorrow. Uprated puck clutch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testament Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I do want a clutch as std one wont do.. But I dont really wanna spend $1000. This one is cheap.. Cheap enuf to try I guess.Maybe Ill just go with it and see from there, it should handle the power just might be a bit heavy for the street. Gaz The guys at autoclutch are good aye, and not that expensive. I priced up one for the turbo/supercharged fiat motor last year from memory about $190 for a new pressure plate and $250 to uprate the pressure plate and make a new heavy duty clutch. you just tell them what your using it for/how much power and they will make you a clutch to take it. I know a couple of people who have used them and both were very happy with the result. they usually stick with a full face clutch but of better material etc. and uprated pressure plate so it holds the torque but isn't ridiculously binary in operation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 It is Excedy Millz. "These clutches are rebranded Daiken Exedy clutches Save hundreds on the retail price" Testament ill give them a bell tommorrow. Last place that I got a quote from quoted me $800 for the setup, that included stone grinding the flywheel to match tho which is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 I'll price one up tomorrow.Uprated puck clutch. Cheers Ben. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esky 73 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 i have used the exedy clutes in a few different cars and have had no dramas with them, the only thing i would do is to make sure your flywheel has been machined and probably the most important thing to do is run them in nicely! we used the heavy duty clutches not the puk type. I dont know what sort of power you are hoping to get but my ca18det uses a standard clutch and so far no dramas at all and i give mine a bit of a hiding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted August 11, 2008 Author Share Posted August 11, 2008 Im going for 250kw @ the rims max, prob more like 220kw in reality. Not right now but after its up and going, I have all the stuff to bolt on and then go for tune and I dont want it to slip on the dyno. So yeah, clutch is one of the things I do need and I figured I may as well do it now while engine and box out. I think for the price im going to take the chance and try it. I will prob also get flywheel lightened and stone ground. Gaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest vvega Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 even 220kw is a awful lot for a ca-18 at the treads what have you got planned for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted August 11, 2008 Author Share Posted August 11, 2008 even 220kw is a awful lot for a ca-18 at the treadswhat have you got planned for it Just the norm. T28 bb turbo off the s15 (except mine is slightly diff as its a GTi-R turbs with new S15 shaft/bb fitted. 550cc Injectors Can use the ca16de cam but Cam gear does the same trick apparently. Sr20de TB 300zx or Q45 AFM Exhaust Filter Cooler Head is already ported (not that Ive actually seen tho, prob just tidied up!) Standard ECU chipped, (Prob remapped so its actually tuned properlly) +boost That above combo gets between 190&220kw@ wheels with most Ca's depending on dyno and other shit I guess. Thats what I am initially doing after I have the engine up and running and the clutch run in.. I have all of the above bar the AFM. Then with my spare engine I will eventually rebuild with a set of forged pistons I have in the works, keep the rest same as above but upgrade turbo a slightly larger item, undecided yet, long term plans. Prob change then to aftermarket ECU if needed and maybe a differant ignition system if need be. That should net 250kw@wheels without having to change cam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatestben Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 RPM374NSSC $436.46 Uprated Puck clutch Kit. Semi solid centre. Available 2 weeks or so from now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esky 73 Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 there is a guy up here who has loads of experience with ca's and he has gotten that sort of power ( 200-220 ) with only a vr4 injector upgrade and more boost and reflashed std computor, ask for mark at on the limit motorsport if you got any quieries, he da man with nissans, he has his own hub dyno and emulator so re chips computors all the time, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Danger Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 220 is alot for an internally standard CA but it's not a huge number for even lightly modified motors. Not sure how much insurance there would be in the rods/pistons/turbo much after 200 on a standard motor? If you have plans to take it further later on, wouldn't it make sense to look at clutches that can handle a bit more power now rather than having to do it all over again later? You know, while it's apart and all But a decent full faced organic plate (with slightly lightened flywheel) should cope and be better to drive around with that a puck? All the CA16 exaust cam does is move the power around the rev range, I don't think they make more power per se. Probably better to use cam gears because then you can dial both cams in to suit the combo. The SR20 TB? I was always under the impression that force fed, big TB's don't make too much difference, just make them less nice to drive at small throttle openings. Happy to stand corrected on all of the above... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted August 11, 2008 Author Share Posted August 11, 2008 RPM374NSSC$436.46 Uprated Puck clutch Kit. Semi solid centre. Available 2 weeks or so from now. What band is that and wherw can/do I get specs from man? Didnt realise but that clucth closes tonight so short notice. Gaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted August 11, 2008 Author Share Posted August 11, 2008 220 is alot for an internally standard CA but it's not a huge number for even lightly modified motors.Not sure how much insurance there would be in the rods/pistons/turbo much after 200 on a standard motor? If tuned right it will be fine. If not they will melt fast lol. Seen a bit more on standard internals, 240 actually and ran like that for 4 years in a sprint car. Heard of even more but no proof. Either way im trying to get forgies at the mo. Id actually be happy with anywhere around 200, its too early to tell I guess. If you have plans to take it further later on, wouldn't it make sense to look at clutches that can handle a bit more power now rather than having to do it all over again later? You know, while it's apart and all But a decent full faced organic plate (with slightly lightened flywheel) should cope and be better to drive around with that a puck? Yeah I originally wanted an organic and lighter pplate so it was driveable... little light car with heavy clutch and too much power is FTW traction wise... but yeah, the place I enquired about said I was just a tad over the type of figures they would like to see running an organic clutch for some reason. Perhaps they saw me coming and just wanted to sell me something more expensive lol. This one speced above that Im prob going to buy is prob a bit overkill so would do 250 easy. All the CA16 exaust cam does is move the power around the rev range, I don't think they make more power per se. Probably better to use cam gears because then you can dial both cams in to suit the combo. The SR20 TB? I was always under the impression that force fed, big TB's don't make too much difference, just make them less nice to drive at small throttle openings. Correct with the cam go. I will probn just run gears, might evcen get cams ground as they not to expensive to do and might as well do it before a tune. As for the tb.. SR20de is the largest of the small nissans to put on. Will allow a tad more flow but throtle response will go down.. prob not the most import mod but none the less helps. Gaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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