Jerm Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 Anyone ever done the conversion from a 1300 and put a 1600 in from an auto? Went to put the flywheel on and realised it didn't fit! just about shat my pants, thought, could it possibly have a different crank for an auto! then realised i'm a moron, and there was a spacer/ adaptor plate which was on the end of the crank but didn't come off and had to be lightly pryed off thank god. Anywyas the real question is can i use the same flywheel bolts? that came off it? cheers Jeremy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 if there's enough! for sure. Make sure you torque em correctly though. Too tight and the heads will snap off leaving the rest stuck in your crank.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkcortina Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 i think the only difference is that the auto wont have a spiggot bearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kris Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 Yup. Spigot bearing and the backplate is different (starter is on the other side on an auto), so use the 1300 manual backplate and starter. Also, you'll need to cut the kickdown mechanism off the throttle mount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerm Posted March 21, 2005 Author Share Posted March 21, 2005 ok... so whats this kickdown mech? the backplate?... is that the piece of tin that goes between the g/b and the engine? and will i need to get the spigot off another engine? i don't exactly know what i tis... it goes in the end of the crank aye? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidian Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 if there's enough! for sure. Make sure you torque em correctly though. Too tight and the heads will snap off leaving the rest stuck in your crank.. umm yeah ill vouch for that spigot bearings are available from ford dealerships dude, i got one a couple of years ago and the ford parts dude just gave it to me.. freebie freebie freebie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerm Posted March 22, 2005 Author Share Posted March 22, 2005 ok went to the ford ealers th ey don't have the spigot bearings anaymore.. went to a few other places and they don't ahve them either!... am i able to take it out of another engine? as i have 2 1300s. how do i go about this? also went to webers specs and he tryed to tell me my 32/36 wouldn't be able to handle my cam and i would need sideys... i am going to just go with the 32/36 have a few small probs though... the auto choke has been fucked aroung with by some munter and its munted with parts missing etc.. can i just take the whole lot off?and lock the butterflys open?... which will give me no choke for now which is ok... another prob is on i am going to do the ghetto screw in the tube approach to block off my fuel return from the carb.. and apparently that messes with the fuel pressure so i need to use the fuel pump off the 1300... and another is that the you know the elbow fitting that comes off the side of the inlet manifold whici usually faces backwards and has a tube that goes straight to the heater bubble? well it faces forward... i think so a pipe can go up to the auto choke... which i am not running... its a cunt to get off and i think it may break if i turn it too hard... i'll just have to get a long tube... Let me know what you think and PLEASE let me know if there are any probs you can think of that i might run into... Cheers j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toucan Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 You'll be sweet man Dont think the spigot bearing off a 1300 will fit. Yea lock the choke open/take the butterflys out. I run no choke and its sweet, less chance of it running rich and fucking your engine. Just means you have to keep your foot on the gas to idle until it warms up. Do you have a pic of the bolt going into the back of the inlet manifold? I have a few different ones, if yours are the same as mine I can probably find one that comes out at the right angle, either that, or undo your one, put some thread tape on it, and then do it back up and hope it tightens half a turn ealier or something. And not sure bout the fuel return? I dont think my 28/36 has one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 With the carb, just rip it all off and rip out the butterflies too. Come take a look at mine if you want, that's all I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushrod Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 ok went to the ford ealers th ey don't have the spigot bearings anaymore.. went to a few other places and they don't ahve them either!j theres a place in diana drive that will be able to match one up for you jerm if you can take in a sample Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerm Posted March 22, 2005 Author Share Posted March 22, 2005 sweet... But if i had a sample why woul di need to get one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerm Posted March 22, 2005 Author Share Posted March 22, 2005 what exactly does it do? do really need one? shoul di just put the 1300 one in? how do i get it out of the crank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkcortina Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 it keeps the gearbox shaft straight i didnt have 1 im my 3l v6 capri but i really should of put 1 in. if you can get a new 1 then you can just press it in with a hammer but if you need to get 1 out then the best thing is to take it to an engine builder who should have a small enough pulling tool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushrod Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 sweet...But if i had a sample why woul di need to get one! they crap out all the time we used to have to take them to get samples all the time when I worked in parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esky boi Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Jerm wrote: also went to webers specs and he tryed to tell me my 32/36 wouldn't be able to handle my cam and i would need sideys... Yea, he also tried to tell me the 32/36 wouldnt work on my 1300.. ignored his comments and stuck it on anyway and mucked around with the jets abit and its sweet And with taking the choke butterflys off, how would it work coz..well my escort wont even start with the choke open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerm Posted March 23, 2005 Author Share Posted March 23, 2005 Fuck i was keen to get this shit in this weekend but doesn't look like its going to happen, raced around today trying to get that spigot bearing on my lunch break... got one to pick up tomorrow (thurs) $20 but then theres another prob... i need a clutch the one i was going to put in turns out to be half worn and the dude helping me said i should really get a better one or a new standard one at least... another option is to get it re faced with a better mateerial, which would be mean but i can't see that happening before friday... so look slike it will have to wait.... anyone know anywhere that would have one in stock i can pick up tomorrow?not to far from the city(home)/north shore(work)?.... Or if anyone has a suitable clutch in good condition give me a txt urgently please 0211554687 Cheers Jeremy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 spigot bearing.. you mean the thrust bearing for the clutch? you can get em at repco for $40 easy. you must have a grunter of a cam for a 32/36 to handle.. I ran one on a race camed 2L that had 300duration and 280 lift, I got it rejetted and it handles ok.. fell over up top though and would have been much better on 45's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerm Posted March 23, 2005 Author Share Posted March 23, 2005 Nah spigot bearing... goes in the end of the crank holds the end of the g/b Input shaft as someone said above. I have got a new thrust bearing as well... I think he was talking a bit of shit... my cam is 280 deg and 400" V/Lift The weather looks as if its going to be gay as anywyas... it will just have to wait... unless soemone has a workshop i can use! I found a clutch too $130 for a full clutch kit pressure plate, housing and thrust bearing(which i already have) its just a standard replacment.... you guys think that will be ok? or should i go for a more rugged one? Cheers J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 I think he was talking a bit of shit... my cam is 280 deg and 400" V/Lift Cheers J ..hmmm thats a rather wild cam.. he could be right. I was told the 32/36 was too small for my cam despite the biggest jets I could. I got away with it though but I think they ment I wasn't making use of my cam and mods with the 32/36. I hated my massive cam, it made me idle at 2500rpm and loose bottom end power. I'd sit at traffic lights pouring through gas and sounding like a tractor. Highways was awesome though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerm Posted March 24, 2005 Author Share Posted March 24, 2005 well we chose this cam because it had quite a moderate duration but still a high valve lift.... people say the bcf2 is quite a moderate cam good for street use and that has 290 deg duration (more than mine) and but less valve lift.. i am going buy the thinking that the duration determines how lumpy and wild the cam is... correct me if i'm wrong. The power band is 2500-7000 which was also one of the reasons we chose this cam... that is lower than most. Another common cam used on xflows for road use is the Cosworth A2 A2 3000-7000 286 deg 8.86mm V/Lift But my cam has alot of lift compared to all the others... which means more gas will flow?which means it will need more fuel?.. so maybe he is right? Hmm? i trust the guy that is helping me and he said it will be sweet and i even said will i need to get it set up and stuff and he said no... maybe i will have to talk to him. Better get this right or its going to be a cunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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