Guest cletus Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 I recently had a strut out of my car. Instead of shortening the insert, a steel tab has been welded to the spring cups to keep the springs captive. I've since become aquainted with the person who owned the car when it was certed. He said it failed on not being captive, so he added the tabs, and then passed. Are these still legit? i guess these would count as option "b" Coil springs fitted to low volume vehicles must be firmly contained within their locating seats in such a way that the springs can not rotate, move vertically, or become dislodged when the suspension travel reaches its maximum rebo und, limited by either: (a) a shock absorber of a compatible stroke length; or ( properly fastened retaining clamps; or © properly fastened wire-rope straps of the type used in motor-sport applications, provided that the suspens ion mounting points are sufficiently strong to withstan d the increased loadings imposed by the straps reaching t he end of their travel, particularly in the case of MacPhe rson-strut suspension systems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cletus Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 ok I'm sure this has been covered a million times before but I am starting to think about the cert on my crown so a few questions. It is using a factory gear box, so no moddied drive shafts, its power is 100 percent over factory Am In the right understanding that I will need TWO drive shaft loops as it is a 2 piece drive shaft yep Next question, wheels and spacers. I have 15 inch spacers on at the moment, that fit perfect over the hub, but have no locating rings for the wheels to sit on, Do I need to moddify these so that the wheel does fit on them? they were on there when I got the spacers, but I had them machined off, as for some reason they didnt work with my wheels 15 inch spacers, tu meke. if they are 15mm, thats ok, wheel has to locate on the center spigot, this can be part of the spacer or if the spigot pokes out enough a centering ring in the wheel would be ok. spacers must be a single stud pattern, attached to the hub or wheel, make sure your studs are long enough as well Third and final question. Fuel pump. The fuel pump in my car comes on when the the key is sitched to igition through the ecu. Is this acceptable or can it only operate when the egine is cranking and running? I have not checked if it switches off then the motor is turned off tho yet. should be wired up as per factory, operates when engine running/cranking/stops when the engine does Oh, and maybe another thing. I am most likley be going for a revin also. So, would I see the cert man first, let him check it over, get a list of stuff, fix it, then go for revin, then finalise cert? and if so can i do it longer than 28 days with the cert man? this is how i tell people to do it if you think its not going to pass a cert first time 1. get a vin number assigned to vehicle from a vinz/vtnz type place, you will need to take the car there 2. get cert check 3. fix cert stuff, get plate 4. take to vtnz, get re reg check, pass 5. smug face time if you already have a 17 digit vin you wont have to worry about step 1. vin number is the only thing a certifier needs, a lot of certifiers want a check sheet from a wof place but its not compulsory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Seedy Al Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 thanks clint you hansom Devil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Berjjj Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 If I have the original ownership/rego papers of the vehicle, is it possible to revert back to an old rego #? Will attempt to track down the plates but I'm assuming those had to be handed in back in the day as well, so surely they are able to be repressed? Have had varying answers wherever I ask, some have told me the only way to go is a personalised plate, but even the website says no deal (not that I'm about to pay $600 or whatever it is). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rookie Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Basically no, you can't. If you re-register the car and it still has the black plates on it then you can jump through a few hoops and keep them, otherwise you can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoKer Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 not so sure on that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ryanfels Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 As far as im aware, you cant get black plates repressed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Berjjj Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Hmm, what if original plates were found and I could prove they belonged to that chassis #? Is it worth contacting previous owners up the line, or am I wasting my time? edit: yeah figured I couldn't get new ones in black, just keen on going back to original rego number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ryanfels Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 If you can get the original plates and prove they belong on the car then yes you can use them 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Berjjj Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Well then, challenge accepted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rookie Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 God speed friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kyteler Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 I don't believe they'll let you do that. The black plates are allowed to be utilised for cars still with them but needing re-registered. I.e. lapsed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Berjjj Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 That sounds pretty ridiculous (rings a bell though). So I'd cancel the rego and have to go through the revin process? I may just be nuts enough to do this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jakesae101 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 just a quick question if i move my factory lower radiator mounting brackets to suit a new radiator and weld in some new brackets in for a intercooler on the lower radiator support do i need cert ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cletus Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 yes. if its not a bolt in then it will need a cert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jakesae101 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 so if i was to bolt it in using riv nuts or drilling and tapping it would be legit ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cletus Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Front - mounted intercooler T he front structure of the vehicle has not been modified, and the front bumper structure is unaltered (cosmetic changes are permitted), and the components do not present any forward - facing external projections, and none of the frontal impact components have been removed where the vehicle is required to comply with a frontal impact occupant protection standard this is from the list of stuff you can do without a cert. the first bit is the bit that applies to you- about modifying the structure. Are you doing other stuff that needs cert anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest morkster Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Changing some bracketry doesn't sound like 'modifying the structure' to me :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brock-Lee Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Drilling holes and shifting mounting points sounds exactly like modifying the structure to me. Make some adaptor plates to mount to original mounting points or get a cert. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CorollaGT Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 cletus - my car got certed a few years ago and included on that list was a brake upgrade. Im now looking at going to larger/better brakes again. Would that then require a full re-cert or is it posaible that it can be ammended like when getting another set of wheels added to the plate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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