Roman Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 @Drummer888 Not sure if there's a comments thread for this already? Love this car, so cool! I saw a few different videos of that event, looked like heaps of fun. Your car definitely looks out of its powerband on the tight stuff though haha. Which ECU do you have specifically? I reckon some speed based boost control would help tame the beast and make it a lot easier off the start line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted September 15, 2020 Author Share Posted September 15, 2020 Just watched your Taupo video, looks a lot more at home! What sort of times has it done in clear traffic? Looks pretty rapid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abarth Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Hey Did you order the LSD diff locally or get it sent from the UK? I’ve got a Punto GT with similar traction issues and am keen to get both wheels turning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drummer888 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 @Roman - its running a Link Atom G4+ with a turbosmart electronic boost solenoid, believe it or not its actually got a 3D controlled boost map on it at the moment which is pretty trick. I think its probably just the input from the driver No idea on times @ taupo in clear traffic as i never really got a good run. All i know is that i was running mid-pack for times in the Trofeo group. I'm hoping to get back down before the end of the year for another run. @Abarth - i bought it direct from Demon Tweaks. It was $1200 NZD inc freight for the Quaife, but then i got hammered by NZ Customs for another $550 on arrival. It looks like there is a few options for LSD's for the fiat gearbox's but the Quaife was best value for money. KAAZ i think do one, as do Wavetrac, and then Bacci Romani do a plate type, then there is Phil @ Bits Of Italy (BOI) in australia who can do a phantom grip style one with springs and plates which is significantly cheaper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abarth Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Ah man I knew I should have stashed a diff in my luggage on the way home from London. How does it go with the LSD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denvertc Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Hello! I`ve seen your projekt on turbo124, but never knew you went with a croma turbo engine. Is the water pump from 1.6 engine bolt on to the 2 litre? I tried to swap to dedra 2.0 8v my hf but gave up the idea as i need integrale parts for the engine mounts and the block is the one with balancing shafts, i really forgot about the croma engine. Gave me some trouble even with my 131 2.0 turbo swaping. Can you please tell me the engine code of the croma 2.0 t, i guess n/a engines are the same? Thank you in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drummer888 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 @Abarth - still haven't got there yet haha ! @denvertc yeah the 1.6 HF Turbo Injected waterpump bolts to the 2L block no prob. I think its 154C4 but don't quote me because i can't remember. I didn't use any integrale parts in mine at all for the conversion. The N/A engine isn't the same - the turbo has a bigger oil pump, oil squirters, low compression pistons etc. I did fit Integrale 8V forged pistons to the Croma block, but yep, no balance shafts i've heard of guys just removing the balance shafts from the 'grale block and making blanks for them - could you do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HFturbo Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Hi it looks like an interesting project. i have, I think the same car in Australia, however it’s is still stock standard. i wondered if the Croma block would mount up ok. Thanks for the confirmation. Actually, I am in need of the original expansion tank. Mounts to right hand strut tower with a scallop at the back. Any chance you may have or know some that has one? your assistance is greatly appreciated regards Jon Armiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brocky41 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I think it needs to be louder for that 'delta' exhaust noise wicked cool car - just love the group A look. Can you hook up some antilag too for lol's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drummer888 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 On 15/09/2020 at 15:40, Roman said: @Drummer888 Not sure if there's a comments thread for this already? Love this car, so cool! I saw a few different videos of that event, looked like heaps of fun. Your car definitely looks out of its powerband on the tight stuff though haha. Which ECU do you have specifically? I reckon some speed based boost control would help tame the beast and make it a lot easier off the start line Did i ever reply to this? really sorry about that if i didnt. Link Atom G4+ with Turbosmart electronic boost control. It's not actually hard to get off the start line at all, its just that the torque curve came in really really low. Long story short, i actually did a mischief and ran a bearing, so have rebuilt the motor with new cams which will let it breath alot more for alot longer, and should increase where the torque comes in, and the RPM. Now has the Quaife LSD fitted too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drummer888 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 New changes: Cams: - Exhaust: 110.0 BTDC, peak cam lift 0.402", duration 296 deg Inlet: 110.0 ATDC peak cam lift 0.394", duration 239 deg (stock Delta Gtie/130TC Abarth) New injectors are 650cc Siemens 60lb New Diff is Quaife ATB QDH2K-27 Abarth multi-dowelled cam gears King race bearings Grade 12.9 capscrew headbolts (instead of stretchbolts) Cometic MLS head gasket ARP rod bolts Candy red paint :D 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drummer888 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 So, i ran out of time and money, car sat for 2 years, ended up calling in a mate. Sincerely want to thank Glenn @ The Lab, and Adrian from Tuning & Performance for persevering ....... Whats changed? - Ethanol ate my fuel system. Now it has a walbro 275 fuel pump and 750cc injectors. The new exhaust cam has dropped air intake temperatures to a much much safer level. The turbo is now probably too small, and if you give it more, the valve springs are getting floaty. How does it go? - on Mobil 98, 280 hub hp (corrected, 300 engine hp depending on how you want to see it, the tuner was bouncing through different correction factors with different numbers, 315 and 330hp came up). Long story short, the non bullshit part, 210kw & 415Nm @ the hubs from a 35 year old engine and turbo setup. So the cool part is this engine was 155hp & 235Nm out of the box. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drummer888 Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 I might be biased here, but this has got to be one of the nicest idles ive heard .... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drummer888 Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 On 23/03/2022 at 22:02, brocky41 said: I think it needs to be louder for that 'delta' exhaust noise wicked cool car - just love the group A look. Can you hook up some antilag too for lol's I did ask if i could hook up antilag .... i was talked out of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjrstar Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 That big exhaust cam probably needs more turbine housing to make the most of it. Otherwise with to much turbo manifold pressure the smaller turbo can lose a bit of response due to incomplete scavenging.. In saying all that the peak torque at around 4000 is pretty decent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drummer888 Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 Yep im pretty sure you're right. I'm not too worried too much about response, its making huge torque very quickly. I think getting traction is more likely to be an issue for the moment. Plenty to look at, bigger inlet cam, bigger turbo, bigger exhaust, and better valve springs. At 20psi its all good, at 21 the valve springs tend to get a bit floaty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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