two_days_late Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Hey guys, Looking to start sorting the ignition etc on my Escort and thinking about getting a kit like this (but the crossflow version) so its nice and simple for me... http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-parts-accessories/ford/electrics/auction-837777743.htm Has anyone had any experience with these and would recommend for or against them? Also it says will only work with negative earth. All Mk2 Escorts are negative earth right? I'm also thinking i'll want a dizzy without vacuum advance (also available) as i'm going to be running twin DCOE 40s. Should I bother trying to run any advance? Can't seem to find a solid answer either way. Cheers Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteretep Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 you should do megasquirt and edis/individual coils and fit tps to your side draughts then if you want injection later on, its already waiting yes car is negative earth, didnt it have the sticker as standard?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
two_days_late Posted January 27, 2015 Author Share Posted January 27, 2015 Haha don't think i'll ever be injecting the crossflow.... Think a new engine would be before that! Cool cheers, quite probably did but engine bay had been resprayed by the time I got my hands on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0fnsiv Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Yes, negative earth yes, no vacuum advance Never used one of those, but they look the nuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benno Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Looks like a pretty good system, not on the cheap side though. How is your current dizzy? Not too worn out? I've got a kit similar to this for my escort, http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-parts-accessories/ford/electrics/auction-838909952.htm which seems to go great. It essentially just converts the points and condensor to electronic. Might be worth considering something along those lines, a fair bit cheaper. Otherwise, yes it is negative earth and I wouldn't bother with advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 This is the correct answer to you question if you have $500 to spend. you should do megasquirt and individual coils and fit tps to your side draughts then if you want injection later on, its already waiting yes car is negative earth, didnt it have the sticker as standard?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
two_days_late Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 Currently have a new electronic dizzy but has vacuum advance so looking to swap it out for a non vac one. Have you guys got links to any build threads with a mega squirt and individual coils? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Both mine and Pete's builds are Kents on microsquirt. He is using LS coils and I am using WRX ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteretep Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I should do an update on my build thread regarding the microsquirt conversion but basically you need -microqsquirt + loom -4x coils + connecting plugs + coil brackets + leads -hall effect sensor and bracket -toothed crank pulley from QED motorsport -tps + connecting plug -relay to control power feed to coils -cable to connect computer to ecu then you can add things like temp sensor to control electric fan, rev limit etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Don't forget launch control... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Don't forget that it's a shitload more than $500 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteretep Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 yeah to be fair, thats about $1200 worth. But its worth the money to wait if you were expecting to spend alot more than the cost of converting a dizzy to electronic tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 You could do it for $600. All you need to do is not be money bags like Pete. Microsquirt and loom $550 Coils $free-$30 TPS $free-$20 Trigger Wheel $free-$30 Hall Effect Sensor $5 - $70 I guess it depends on how much time you want to save by spending money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Don't be discouraged by Roman, he is a man who values his time at $150/hr, so he ends up taking the expensive/quick route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
two_days_late Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 Cheers for the feedback! Looks like a pretty good system, not on the cheap side though. How is your current dizzy? Not too worn out? I've got a kit similar to this for my escort, http://www.trademe.c...n-838909952.htm which seems to go great. It essentially just converts the points and condensor to electronic. Might be worth considering something along those lines, a fair bit cheaper. Have already donated the stock dizzy to a mates project but have heard those are good kits. You could do it for $600. All you need to do is not be money bags like Pete. Would also require the hassle and cost of someone explaining to me how it all works and probably help wiring it all up. Am i likely to see major performance/reliability gains by going the megasquirt route? With the stealth box, I like the idea of being able to hide that and having the engine bay electrics looking pretty much factory. Cheers Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteretep Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 there has to be someone in wellington who could help, I got a couple of guys off here to help me and we wired my car in a day startup ignition table will make starting easier if you have a bigger cam, also there is so much more that a microsquirt can do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 This is what the wiring diagram looks like for a microquirt, it is pretty simple. Doing IGN only all you do is leave out the fuel part, ie the injectors and pump relay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downtrail Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 You dont even need to use clt or iat either uless you want to set limiters at certin temps. Just use a resistor to clamp temps at a value. Ditch the idle valve let carbs do it. Dont need o2 unless you want to log it to sid with carb tuning etc. The possible combinations are endless 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
two_days_late Posted February 2, 2015 Author Share Posted February 2, 2015 Thank's for all the info guys. Have done a bit of thinking and as a starting point I'm just gonna go with something like this: http://www.simonbbc.com/bundle-deals/high-energy-distributor/ford-x-flow-crossflow-performance-ht-leads-10mm-red-escort-fiesta-capri-cortina Simple / Reliable / Cheap to start with. Cheers Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speshnz Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Thank's for all the info guys. Have done a bit of thinking and as a starting point I'm just gonna go with something like this: http://www.simonbbc.com/bundle-deals/high-energy-distributor/ford-x-flow-crossflow-performance-ht-leads-10mm-red-escort-fiesta-capri-cortina Simple / Reliable / Cheap to start with. Cheers Matt Hey Just add my two cents, unless your dizzy is shot i wouldnt waste money on one of those. The electronic conversions are really good. I fitted a pertronix to my Herald about 12 years ago. If your dizzy is fine then theres little point replacing it. drop $100 on a conversion kit and a also throw on a sports coil .. later if you find you need more put the money you saved into a megasquirt. IMO at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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