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Hi Matt.

That's an interesting write up about the Mk2 Cortina front struts. The guys in the UK make out like it is F all to swap it over. It would appear not.

If you did it again would you go Mk2 Cortina again or would you use an Escort front end?

If you change your mind about the Zephyr tie rod ends HBI Engineering in ChCh can make custom length tie rod balls. I'm pretty sure they are OK with certs, I have had cars certed with steering components they have rebuilt.

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haha yeah mate know what you mean, need to prioritise the spending to make the most progress, be cool to see this thing in the flesh sometime

Yeah it's that old time vs. money thing, taking leave from work to do it is good though as that way I am still getting paid!!

I don't want to say when the car will be going but it should be soon....

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Hi Matt.

That's an interesting write up about the Mk2 Cortina front struts. The guys in the UK make out like it is F all to swap it over. It would appear not.

If you did it again would you go Mk2 Cortina again or would you use an Escort front end?

If you change your mind about the Zephyr tie rod ends HBI Engineering in ChCh can make custom length tie rod balls. I'm pretty sure they are OK with certs, I have had cars certed with steering components they have rebuilt.

Yeah and that's what I thought too when I started, It's not a hard swap to do but there are a bunch of little things that no one seems to mention.

If I was doing it over I think I would go escort, the only thing is that I would need to do something different with the sump, I have an rx4 sump on my motor and the pan sits nicely in front of the crossmember. With the escort crossmember I would need the sump pan to sit at the rear (although I could probably flip the sump around) and it might change the position of the motor slightly.

I think the UK guys stay away from the escort conversion to avoid cutting anything up, I don't have that problem....

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Yes they are funny about cutting them a bit. They do massive fugly rust repairs without a thought but believe if you touch the fire wall the car will implode.

All the talk about Escort front swaps being dumb seemed based on people doing half assed jobs of it

Anyway I'm sure your Mk2 struts will work great. It looks like you have done top job.

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There is another big advantage with the escort swap as you keep the whole front end the same as in the escort so there are no geometry changes. While the mk2 stuff goes in fine it is still a mix of bits and that means there are some compromises.

I actually have an escort front end which I might put into that other shell (once this one is finished that is)

It is something I wanted to do after seeing your build

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nice work there mate looking good. should go real strong I build one up with a 4AGE in .  ive got a couple of these as projects also I noticed that when you brought the blue one it had what look like wide lotus rims on it? you don't  wana sell these do you? if you still have them?

 

Ive heard using an escort front end is a problem due to if its all bolted up like in a escort ie the engine mounts etc ur carbs end up inside the car.

 

 

Cheers rusty

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Ive heard using an escort front end is a problem due to if its all bolted up like in a escort ie the engine mounts etc ur carbs end up inside the car.

Yeah that's right.

If someone went to the effort of doing a front end swap a set of new engine mounts a sump adjustment surely wouldn't be out of the question?

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nice work there mate looking good. should go real strong I build one up with a 4AGE in .  ive got a couple of these as projects also I noticed that when you brought the blue one it had what look like wide lotus rims on it? you don't  wana sell these do you? if you still have them?

 

Ive heard using an escort front end is a problem due to if its all bolted up like in a escort ie the engine mounts etc ur carbs end up inside the car.

 

 

Cheers rusty

Yeah what Pete said, to me changing the engine mounts to move the motor would be a pretty easy solution

And yeah I could be persuaded to sell those wheels

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Yep that's true guys changing mounts is no probs I've never done the escort conversion or seen one done so can't really comment. Those boys in the uk seem to be able to do anything they want then just roll down for a wof and if the tester man says it looks ok ur good to go. No cert process over there.

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The regulations are getting tight huh.

Keep up the good work, you're nearly there.

Yeah getting pretty sick of re-doing stuff though, I don't mind if it makes the car better but some things are a bit stupid....

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just out interest could you weld up the existing 108 pcd holes and re drill them to what you want? I guess the heat might warp them a fair bit. at least your doing it properly mate. Ive followed a few builds on the 105e speed website and some of the engineering could be described as interesting!!! to say the least.

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Nah the problem is that the axles are cast and they don't like you welding to a casting, they didn't even like the locator that was welded on the old ones to locate the rotor even though if the weld was to fail it wouldn't be a major, they reckoned that the heat introduced to the casting could cause other problems.

There are a few things that I disagree with but at least we can modify our cars so it could be worse, I just have to suck it up a bit

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i cant work a computer well enough to model all the suspension.

I made some steering arms out of a bit of thin box steel that were a bit of a guess, but had the correct ackerman.

 

then bought a cheap laser pointer from somewhere, attached it to the hub face, took out the spring, and lifted the suspension up and down.

Get someone to mark the line on the wall as it goes up and down, bit of trigonometry and you have the angle. you want it to be vertical meaning no toe change. 

 

if your cunning, you will put a mirror on the wall, and a plate on the hub, then your twice as accurate and can do it with no helper

 

Then you change the steering arm length, height, rack height, pivot point etc. one day it will work out and then measure up and machine out of steel

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Yeah the issue will be that because the arms follow the arc of the TCA the line wont be vertical, but I guess if I can get a reference first (maybe with the steering arms disconnected) then just adjust things until there is no toe change then that could work. It would be a quick way to check anyway

Its a good idea about mocking something up before machining them, actually there is a guy here at work with a 3d printer, that might be a possibility....

Cheers

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What version of Solidworks are you running?

I'll have to check what version I've got but if yours is the same or older I wouldn't mind having a look at your model.

I've got another program I've been playing with but need more projects to practice on/learn from and might be able to help you out at the same time.

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