andy Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 So my wife goes to get a new warrant on the family 2001 Estima so I can get it on Trademe to flick it and down size. Comes back with a fail due to "rear control arm bushes worn" and "rear diff support mount bush worn" and a quote for $1200. Now the thing is that this place has done the warrent on this wagon for the past 4-5 years except once. The last warrant she put through a testing station and it failed on these bushes as the guy wasnt sure what they should look like so required they were checked by an engineer or toyota workshop. So I took it to toyota where it normally goes and he re-did the warrant and advised that all bushes made of this material (elastomer) always look like this and showed me examples on other cars. He's now left and a different guy has failed the bushes. Can someone eyeball the attached pics and possibly advise what you think? Im cool if they need replacing but for what he's quoting I want to be sure. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 They look ok to me. It's hard to say with out seeing them in the flesh. They will crack on the surface but you have to check them to see if they are cracked right through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 thanks for looking. Is it normal that they are extruded out as they are and if I physically load the control arm by hand will I feel alot of movement if they are shot? Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Its hard to say from a photo, yeah if they are really stuffed you will be able to feel it by hand. Take it to the local VINZ etc tell the inspectors the deal and ask them to take a look, if they are quiet they might do it for free. If you can't get it WOFed shop about for the repairs Toyota will have a maximum hourly charg out rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 Thanks, yeah I will get a second opinion. Toyota are talking about $300 for parts and $900 labor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted October 18, 2011 Author Share Posted October 18, 2011 Update. Estima now has warrant. Testing station Wairau park. No issues with the bushes. Toyota must have been short of work lol. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2JZKP Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 happens all the time when theyre quiet they go looking for work and fail stupid stuff, ive seen heaps of these same bushes in estimas/ipsums and they allways look like that just surface cracks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemi Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 also get it alot at vtnz when taking trucks for wofs , love to fail them on cracked springs eye bushes . does it have movement ?? no . ok then wheres my sticker then . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Update. Estima now has warrant. Testing station Wairau park. No issues with the bushes. Toyota must have been short of work lol.Thanks. Like a boss! Probably one mechanic being a twat. I think VTNZ have a roster of things to fail sometimes. This week it's spring bushes, next week it's inner tie rod ends etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted October 18, 2011 Author Share Posted October 18, 2011 stoked! extra funds for the coupe. Cheers for the advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrome_GT Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Did you fail a wof at one place and went on to get the wof done again and passed at another place within 30 days? I thought you couldn't do that cos the fail gets logged in the system. Sounds good if it is allowed. very curious as this could be an easy way of getting around wof failures for rediculous things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 does it have movement ?? no . ok then wheres my sticker then . Exactly. A couple of places have failed my Niva's bushes which are chronic for looking rooted for years when they're fine. It's just laziness (or worse, dishonesty) really - they should always check for actual movement before failing stuffed looking bushes imho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 Did you fail a wof at one place and went on to get the wof done again and passed at another place within 30 days?I thought you couldn't do that cos the fail gets logged in the system. Sounds good if it is allowed. very curious as this could be an easy way of getting around wof failures for rediculous things I dont even know if it was logged in the system as they didnt give me a check sheet. The more I think about it the dodgier it sounds. To my knowledge, if you go for a warrant and fail, you can have it re-checked somewhere else but have to pay again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranter Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 I do that all the time, by the time they find the faults in the system they have already inspected the car and are happy to pass it. I usually just say this has been failed, I don't agree. You check it out and see what you think. Its easier and cheaper to recheck some faults then agrue with a WOF inspector on a power trip who won't back down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrome_GT Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Its easier and cheaper to recheck some faults then agrue with a WOF inspector on a power trip who won't back down. That's what I reckon too. Bloody good to know. At minimum I thought you had to wait 30 days before going to somewhere else - assuming the system would not allow them to log a pass. But now i know better, cheers guys. Sorry for the hijack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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