Beaver Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 hey all just picked up another engine for the avenger that has been sitting for approx 5 years. it ran fine up until this according to owner (car was written off). apart from it turning over freely by hand, I havent looked at it any closer. what checks/things should i do before attempting to fire it up. obviusly will do an oil change. with regards to the coolant/water, i imagine there will be a fair bit of brown shit/rusty pipes etc, so whats the best way to resolve this? it has been stored inside, so is in faily good nick etc, just want to make sure its all good to go before I crank it up. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloNLo Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 i would turn it over with plugs out to get oil preasure up before starting it you can run a hose to the lower water outlet till it runs clear out the top to clear crap out of water gallaries could be worth checking timing just to be safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorick Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 hey alljust picked up another engine for the avenger that has been sitting for approx 5 years. it ran fine up until this according to owner (car was written off). apart from it turning over freely by hand, I havent looked at it any closer. what checks/things should i do before attempting to fire it up. obviusly will do an oil change. with regards to the coolant/water, i imagine there will be a fair bit of brown shit/rusty pipes etc, so whats the best way to resolve this? it has been stored inside, so is in faily good nick etc, just want to make sure its all good to go before I crank it up. cheers Take the Rocker cover off. Plugs out, Heaps of CRC or WD40 or something similar down the plug holes. Wind it over a couple of times by hand. CRC will squirt out the plug holes. Tip the motor over and drain the rest of the CRC. Check the colour. If it's rust coloured you may need a hone, if it's milky white you may have some oxidation on top of the pistons (Having said that if the pistons were oxidised it probably wouldn't turn) however if it's turning by hand then you maybe cool. Check the valves for movement and any signs of rust around the valve guides. Some of the valves will not have moved for 5 years and the springs have been compressed all that time and there may be some rust buildup on the valve seats. Not a big deal, gods willing the seats will get cleaned after you start it when the rest of that CRC gets blown out the exhaust. A bit of oil poured down into the camfollowers won't hurt either. Have a look inside the intake manifold for any signs of condensation buildup. Before I start them I like to put a squirt of Moreys top end lube down the plug holes just as a bit of insurance against sticky rings. Then like SloNLo says wind it over with the plugs out to get oil pressure up. I also like to wind them over with the plugs in but with the coil lead disconnected and the throttle wide for about 30 seconds, this cleans the old oil out of the galleries and cleans out any remaining crap in the combustion chambers and manifolds. Do a quick compression test to make sure all the valves are seating and the rings are sealing, but mainly that it's all even. 140 psi will get the old Rootes started. A drop of oil on the points cam never went amiss. and a quick check in the carburettor float bowl for lead oxide dust and zinc oxide crap, just to keep it away from the jets and lastly make sure the float valve and the accelerator pump piston is free. If the motor was drained of water early on you shouldn't have too many issues, there will be rust but a good coolant system flush will sort that once its up and running Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKtrips Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I'll give you a hand to chuck it in and we can do all these good things once we have it in the hole.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 sounds like a date kk, and a good date at that. im actaully a fucking noob at this shit. will let you know time and place, what flavour wine to bring etc etc. ill bring the chocolates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizzl Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 ive only ever checked oil,water etc...wound over to get oil pressure before allowing it to fire,and let it idle for a while before giving it a rev up... this commy ive got to pick up has been sitting since 2008,put a jump pack on it,wnd wind vroom,fired up,had a wee cough then ran smooth as silk...didnt give it rev much though... but ill end up giving it a oil change,coolant flush and new plugs anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginguu Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 if it was a datsun i wouldnt worry about it, started up a motor that sat out side for 10 years and it just had weak spark we we adjustyed the condensor and it fired up on all 4 cylnders, then a week later the water pump started leaking lol. so we made a gasket for it out outa a shoe box J15 Datsun FTW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaMpylobacter Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 made a gasket for it out outa a shoe box FUCK YES. I always make cardboard gaskets. esp for things like carb tops and waterpumps. people that ring up work will put jobs off for days to get one tiny gasket they need that'd take 5minutes to cut out of gasket paper. and they think i'm a psycho when i say use a cocopops box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizzl Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 yup.my old man used to always use weet bix boxes...win... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteretep Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 gasket paper is the business Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakesae101 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 i used to get funny looks when i went to repco to get gasket paper they would allways say we can get you the gasket used to use a small ball pein hammer round the edge or whatever i needed to make allways worked and the ball side was good for doing bolt holes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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