slayer00 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Zetec with gsxr itbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grdwalker Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 what year zetec is the recomended? and price wise? how hard to install loom? etc. what about the BP engine with an mx5 5spd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My name is Russell Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 what about the BP engine with an mx5 5spd? IMO I think that would be a really good transplant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCADTA Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 what about the BP engine with an mx5 5spd? IMO I think that would be a really good transplant yes that was one of our first suggestions, already rwd, no pissin around but go for 1800 6spd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 what year zetec is the recomended? and price wise? how hard to install loom? etc. what about the BP engine with an mx5 5spd? No idea on the year. Do some research on google. Should be around a $500 engine tho IMO. Loom, you can either make your own or strip the standard one of what you dont want. Perhaps LINK has a direct bolt in ECU which would come with loom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorensin Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Zetecs cheap as chips, its the modding that'll get cha depends on what you wanna do with the engine but any early black top zetec would be mint. The new duratec is the same as zetec just with a alloy block that apparntly isnt as good at putting the power through and putting up with the same thrashing. Search burton power on google, they will sell you everything you need for the conversion, you can just look at there pics and have a go at making it yourself or get some local fabricator to for you. Another option could be rebuild the kent, beleave me 3k doesnt even go that far on rebuilding one seriously. A reasonable build on the kent will see you over 100hp with excellent throttle responce, also avoids getting a cert as wel as being cool nd old school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rot808 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 just make it rotary and be happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich_mkii_rs2000 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 zetec conversion bits over here are still pretty pricey for us poms. They are a good engine but power wise, a pinto would be best ford engine in terms of power per $. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 What conversion parts would you need to buy? - Make your engine and gbox mounts - Focus steel sump and mod it yourself - Redirect waterline yourself - Linkages are all doable yourself - Box bolts up, think the flywheel or clutch may need a bit of work? (see google) - Get driveshaft shortened yourself (or mount engine so you can use a standard type) - Custom extractors and exhaust - Twin 45's OR Custom ECU and loom (megasquirt does one for the Zetec which is cheaper than Link) Carburator manifold may be the only thing you need to buy in from UK Gaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 They are a good engine but power wise, a pinto would be best ford engine in terms of power per $. Not really relevant but I read an artical in the weekend on getting 200bhp from ford engines. Had good write ups on around 5 Ford 4pot engines, Kent, Pinto, Zetec, Duratec and the NA YB. Apart from the 1600 the 2l was the most expensive to get 200hp out of. So guess it depends on what power he is after. Gaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich_mkii_rs2000 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 True if you have the skills to make the bits then it's not too difficult, but I certainly dont. There was a really good guide to fitting the zetec on the cheap with home made parts, but the site is now down. You are right that with just building an engine on its own the pinto wouldnt be the cheapest to get 200bhp, but i was thinking in the situation if I wanted to fit an engine in a mkii i would also need to buy all the conversion parts and the pinto needs minimal extras to fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grdwalker Posted February 25, 2009 Author Share Posted February 25, 2009 whats involved in rebuilding the engine? a comprehensive list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grdwalker Posted February 25, 2009 Author Share Posted February 25, 2009 this look good option?:::: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... =204033763 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorensin Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 whats involved in rebuilding the engine? a comprehensive list? What I'm part way through doing to my mk1 Hardend oversize stainless steel valves Stainless steel valve seat Valves fitted with dual angel seats Head face machined Port and Polish Cam kit (keepers, followers and retainers) Alloy Rocker Cover Block sonic tested, bored and machined New oversized High Compression pistons New water pump New High pressure and high volume oil pump Electronic fuel pump Electronic ignition(megajolt) Then theres the intake and exhaust to do, I've sorted my exhaust and want to sort out my intake now, if anyone has any exp on side or down drafts I'd love to hear from you, i hav heard sides dont fit in to well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 this look good option?:::: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... =204033763 If the gearbox is also reconed then it is a good price as they cost a bit to do. But if you could do it yourself you could do the bottom end for a tad less. Bearings around $200 Bottom end set $60 Crank polish around $80 Pistons and rings (if you need both) $300 Engine $150 All of this is considering you dont need a crank grind or rebore, guess it doesnt include lube, silicon etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Just saw pics and seems it has rebuilt head and new clutch which I didnt see before. In this case I think $1500 is a good price. Alot of that would be spent in parts if you were to do it yourself. Maybe ask what EXACTLY was replaced where etc and if he has receipts. Eg of some questions: Has the auxiallry drive bearing been replaced? Cam bearings replaced? Rebore or just a hone? New pistons? (looks that way) Oil pump drive If it has an aftermarket or new cam have the tappets been machined to match Does it come with alt, starter, dizzy? Have these been reconed at all? Has it had new valves? Valve inserts? Is it running lash caps? Has it had any porting? Umm if gbox is recon what did he do? bearings, syncros...?There are many morew but I gotta go work on mine now lol. These are all things that people may miss when rebuilding or refreshing an engine.. When he says "full recondition" it could mean differant things to differant people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My name is Russell Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Pinto is a very easy conversion ... or though it is easy for it to become an expensive conversion, by the time you get cert, brake upgrade, re locate battery, extractors, box, driveshaft shortened, carbs, coil, dizzy, upgrade radiator, electric fan, etc etc can be done on the cheap i guess. For something different and way cooler IMO ... http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... s/auction- 204139994.htm Not sure how hard it is to find a MX5 box for it, but the engines are really common at pick a part etc and there are lots of aftermarket options for turbo bits etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raizer Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 brake upgrade, re locate battery, extractors, coil, upgrade radiator Can change to pinto with out doing any of that, but make sure the Xflow rad is in mint condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusted Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Turbz the 1600. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 brake upgrade, re locate battery, extractors, coil, upgrade radiator Can change to pinto with out doing any of that, but make sure the Xflow rad is in mint condition. Yup yup. 1600 and 2l cortinas are the same core sized radiators anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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