Guest Demonmk2 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 hey i no a guy who has a turbo'd crossflow sport engine he said it goes hard not sure if he is lying or not cause im sure youd have to rebuild the motor complete to cope with the power right? and i also no sombdopy who has a supercharger for there sport engine turbo vs supercharger what would you choose for that type of motor and why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest escort_boy Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 here we go again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Demonmk2 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 fuck you then i jsut wanted to no a question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemi Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 yes u can turbo a 1600 crossflow ive seen it done a few times but for the amount of effort put in its easier to do what rt has done and inject turbo and drop a pinto in , umm as far as i can think that guy could get to about 8 punds before the engine would start complainging about it , dpend what your after a supercharger runs off a puller off your cracnkshaft , this gve u a constant amount of boost even at standstill , however a turbocharger uses 'your exhuast gases to compress the intake , this means u dont have any reduced horsepwoer due to something usuing a pulley to turn etc , however u need to get revs up high enough to turn the turbine ....turbo lag there what i think of your question , at least this one was half valid guys cummon ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esky boi Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Give him a break, thats not really a stupid question Um if you're going for forced induction on a small engine, then youd wanna go turbo. This is becuase a supercharger needs torque from the engine to make it work, and on a smaller engine the amount of effort needed to make the supercharger work efficiently isnt really worthwhile (this is why you only really see big motors such as V8s with them) Turbing a Xflow is possible and can be done safely on lowish boost with the standard internals. But turbos and carbs dont really like each other so its best to go for fuel injection.... If you are going to be using a carb- turbo setup then the easiest, and probably cheapest way is to use a suck through carb set up. Don't ask me how youd install something like that tho, ive never done it before aye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esky boi Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 beat me to it there mongol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Demonmk2 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 thank you guys for answering my question much apretiated so really i wouldnt gain alot of power increase on just 8 pounds ,praobly not worth the hassle ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemi Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 at sea level the air pressure is about 14 pounds i think (1bar) , so if ur running 8 pound thats 50 percent more air getting into the engine , this should equate to 50percent more power , not quite but people wouldnt turbo their cars if it was a waste of time man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Demonmk2 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 yeah i no sorry i didnt mean it like that i was meaning to compare to other engines that could be used instead of the xflow engine i got i no 8 pounds is still pretty good conserding the toyota levin 4agze come 8 pounds standard (supercharged), the main reson i dont want to get rid of my engine is that it has a really nice sound to it and im affraid if i go to another engine it may not sound as good and id rather have a nice sounding engine than one that doesnt sound 2 good but goes like stink so i thought i could use what i have as a base to start with and work it up to the standard i want aiming for 135hp in the final results or anywere near id be happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esky boi Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Turbo running 8 psi on a 1600 xflow should give about 130 hp. But I reckon itd be easier to just chuck a pinto in it aye. Like with a decent exhaust, cam and abit more compression you should see around 130 hp if not more.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esky boi Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Not sure what they really sound like tho. Never really heard one with a decent exhaust aye... better be good. Oooh im missing the sound of that xflow 1300 already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Demonmk2 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 is that a fully worked 1600? or is that just with the turbo and strengthed shit the guy at the wreakers (hahaha) said i should b able to get 150hp with a hairdrier (turbo...i hope) and worked internals and cams etc i said thanks and walkd off laughing as he had snot over his face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esky boi Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Thats just with the turbo and cam I think. Fully worked with the turbo will see at least 150 hp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Demonmk2 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 sure id notice abit of differnce in the car pushing 150hp in a 948kg car should pick up to 100 fairly quick? i got a coby running thru a 1.9" exhuast maori job (im maori) home made extractors (dont actually look to bad) and nobody has ever dissed me for the sound of the car they all like the noise it makes not to loud not to quiety has that nice baffle when u decelarate (no not the back fire ) im proud of the sound that bout it not the speed lol im sure having a 1600 xflow turbo would b fun and abit different than the old chuck in the 2l technique (not dissing the 2l i respect them they wikid) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 http://www.pumaracing.co.uk/cflow.htm read that for info. I've seen a few turbod 1600 Xflows and the go well. Quite similar to a turbo pinto except lighter and more revier.. but of course less powerful. btw, superchargers work great on small engines. You just have to pick the correct blower. ie. 4agze or SC-14 blower from a Toyota 1G-GZE are good choices. 8psi makes a huge difference. On a standard pinto running 8psi I had 145rwhp, it would take a lot more work to get that n/a. 150hp output in a 948 car would be pretty fast. You have lightness on your side. use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eddie W Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Modern superchargers are more efficient than they used to be so the power required to drive them is not so bad. They do NOT boost the same at all revs, but they do pull all the way as the response is instantaneous. Also although in theory the drive of a turbo is free, in practice there is a power loss in the effect on the exaust. Personally I like blowers. I had one on a 1650cc nonxflow with a big valve head, Crower cam especially for a charger and 4into 1 exhaust. It was fed by a 45 DCOE. Now this car had 7" rims and at 50kph if you floored it it would hardly accelerate because it just lit up the rubber and poured smoke. It was seriously wicked to drive. Eddie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerm Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Tell me how to build a Supercharged 1600 Xflow What kind of blower did you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogre Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 has anyone tried putting a 2lt turbo telstar motor into an escort or cortina or somthing.WOuld be mean.Twin cam and all that shit.WOuld be better than a turbo pinto wouldnt it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidTheCreator Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 ...or a 2ltr dohc out of a seirra sapphire and then turboing that ??? , but ive heard those motor have like none aftermarket part though , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atropine Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Tell me how to build a Supercharged 1600 Xflow What kind of blower did you use? id also love any info on this.. would love to make a blown escort some day in the future.. would centrifugals be the only viable choice or would the likes of a 4/71 be ok? any info would be great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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