slickyddyer Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Got this 205 motor off trade me. It used to be an automatic. Iv'e put it in my cortina all ready to go but this spigot bearing won't go in to the back of the crank shaft because it's never had one. The metals never been bored out for it. Iv'e tried grinding some of it out but it's no good. Do I have to take it out again and find a manual motor? Or can it be fitted some how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sholdowa Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 change flywheel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 The bearing runs in the crank. It should have been machined, got a photo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickyddyer Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share Posted March 25, 2012 Correct it's in the back of the crank and it has not been machined from factory because it had the torque converter in it which does not require a being as it's solid mounted to the crank. I can't figure out how to add photos on here but if you imagine the hole where it's meant to be...it's got a slight lip about 3mm in that runs right through to the end of the hole. So I'm fucked for putting this motor in as a manual at the moment. The bearing just won't go in past this lip. I had a look at the torque converters shaft that was in there and it stops at the same point the bearing stops when i'm trying to get in in (about half way) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESKIN8R Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Does it have a plate on the end of the crank still? I had to remove a plate from a auto pinto. Same size as the end of the crank and acts as a spacer to the flexplate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickyddyer Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share Posted March 25, 2012 No plate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Sounds like some kind of insert or an old spigot bearing that has been forced in there by the convertor snout. I've put auto Cortina motors in manual cars and had no problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickyddyer Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share Posted March 25, 2012 Thanks and good thinking. It's a sierra motor...If that makes a difference. Nothings in there that I can see, just metal. The converter snout you are talking about is the exact same size as the bearing but it doesn't go in as far. (half way) Where the snout stopped is where the bearing stops also. About half way in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 A picture speaks 1000 words. Take a photo, upload it to photo bucket, put the arrow over your photo you want and 4 image codes will drop down below it, click on the lowest one, come to oldschool quick reply section click on it and press CNTRL C and you're done. It really sounds loke the remains of the old spigot bearing ramed down inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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slickyddyer Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 Can you see the slight lip at the very front? Easy to see on first photo. It's never had a spigot bearing in it. Been automatic from factory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eke_zetec_RWD Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 have you measured it? got correct bearing? its just a needle roller with no inner race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickyddyer Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickyddyer Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 Yep Smashed two of them so far trying to get them in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I can see where you have ground it and a small shoulder. That looks like the outside of an old spigot to me. It probably had a motor swap some where between 1978 and now and no body took the outsife of the old one out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickyddyer Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 So what can i do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KKtrips Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 You'll need to get it out. Only way I can see to do it (when its pushed that far down is to cut a channel through it with a dremel and lots of patience - be careful not to take too much material off the crank - once you cut a channel through it with the dremel you should be able to pick it out with a screwdriver or a medium sized hook. Fit new spigot bearing and you are off again.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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