NewGuy Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Now i might just be dumb here but i am still kind of worried. Yesterday i started my car to drive down to the shed. I heard a noise like the fan was hitting something, so i switched the car and fan off and rolled the rest of the way to the shed out of gear. THen when i popped the bonet i found oil everywhere. All over my nice shiney cleaned engine!!!! I saw the seal on the oil pump sticking out the side of the pump. My gut dropped. SO i jacked the car up, lossened the filter off, checked the seal was in place it was it is one that is pressed into the filter. BTW i am a spin on. So i thought hmmm maybe it just came loose an blew the seal. So i tightened the filter back into place and replenished the oil supply. I then did some tuning of the carbs after it had warmed up. Then this morning i start the car and the seal blows out again instantly!!!! After i spent a good hour cleaning her up yesterday!!!!!!!!!! GRRR So is it just a bad filter or seal??? Or is it an internal problem Pressure switch or something? Leading up to this event i did a oil and filter change before i did a 3 hour trip to and from as i had cracked 1000 odd miles. After that trip i removed the current filter thats still on the car (as i had only done 120Miles),to get the oil leaks under control. I replaced the Oil pump thinking that was what was leaking, it wasn't banged the filter back on and did another 300miles. No troubles and very little oil leaking. I then did another small day trip for work and drove him that night with no problems at all. A. Because i used it more than once? B. Bad filter? C. Something of the slant four that i have not found out about yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemi Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 check the oil pressure reliefs valve is wokring and aint corroded et. by the sounds of it that what the problem is , unless you have two seals on there ( i highly doubt that) , or have scored the mating surfaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewGuy Posted September 29, 2008 Author Share Posted September 29, 2008 Hmmm The pump is Brand New lol Where the relief valve is. Seems really odd So the best way to look over this would be old filter off, take spin on conversion off and inspect the condition of the surfaces. Put that back on new filter on replenish oil and see it it does it again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteretep Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 if its new then it might have caught some shit in the valve or been put together wrong, and now the rubber is fully fucked take it apart and check it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaMpylobacter Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 replace the filter with one with a large body. the seals, once the blow once, will keep blowing until you replae it/the filter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemi Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 you siad somthing about a spin on conversion??? explain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiemk Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 maybe triumphs run filters which sit in place and and a centre bolt holds them on? if so you have to hold filter and not let it turn whilst doing up bolt as this will twist seal and damge/etc it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewGuy Posted September 29, 2008 Author Share Posted September 29, 2008 if its new then it might have caught some shit in the valve or been put together wrong, and now the rubber is fully fuckedtake it apart and check it out It did 500Km Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewGuy Posted September 29, 2008 Author Share Posted September 29, 2008 replace the filter with one with a large body. the seals, once the blow once, will keep blowing until you replae it/the filter Righto thats what i thought Maybe just a manufacturing fault ill try another one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewGuy Posted September 29, 2008 Author Share Posted September 29, 2008 you siad somthing about a spin on conversion??? explain? they usually have a cartridge type filter that goes inside a holder and has a center bolt that goes up the middle of the cartridge holding it in place. as a after market part, you can convert it to use a spin on type filter. Just an adapter plate really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eke_zetec_RWD Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 lol have you checked there isnt 2 oil seals instead of 1? sometimes the stay stuck on when oil filter is replaced and then when new filter is put it isnt supported. then blow lol check that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemi Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 lol have you checked there isnt 2 oil seals instead of 1? sometimes the stay stuck on when oil filter is replaced and then when new filter is put it isnt supported. then blow lol check that. been siad lol also ooo ok gotcha now saweeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNTD Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 wat filter is it? there been a recall on some lately... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewGuy Posted September 29, 2008 Author Share Posted September 29, 2008 wat filter is it? there been a recall on some lately... FRAm from bnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewGuy Posted September 30, 2008 Author Share Posted September 30, 2008 Seems everything was all tight. New Filter on seems to all be a ok Cheers Guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dell'orto Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 wat filter is it? there been a recall on some lately... Z386's wasnt it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipsittin Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 check the oil pressure reliefs valve is wokring and aint corroded et. by the sounds of it that what the problem is , unless you have two seals on there ( i highly doubt that) , or have scored the mating surfaces. I agree in the last 20 years I have had just 5 oil releif valves stick(these were brand new) and have seen many others. The only thing to cause filters leak when running is: pressure, loose filter and manufacturing fault. the second one above is easy to find the 3rd on is hard to provr without diagnosing the whole problem. Check it with a mechanical oil pressure guage not an electric one for an accurate reading. Oil releif valves are just another thing we forget about when we rev our engines high. I have seen more oil relief valves stick due to crap poured in with the oil when refilled after the fittment of the new filter housing. You should have no more than about 45-60 psi pressure at idle on a could engine being a triumph and about 20psi at idle (remembering that this could vary a lot an gauges can be different. Let us know how you get on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewGuy Posted October 16, 2008 Author Share Posted October 16, 2008 Well just to recap My Filter Seal Blew out. Got a new filter checked the swap over numbers etc etc was def the right filter. Did 300 odd miles no problems. Then last Thursday night im getting the car ready to go to Auckland the next day and i fuck up some cabling. Disconnect a wire and forget where and what it is supposed to be connected to. I then sleep on and im shiting myself i really didn't want to drive the Van etc, the ute was busy working. Get up at 6am dreamt bout what i had done got up and fixed it. Tidied up the cables, started the car and pop fucking oil seal blows again im like wtf cursing and swearing and generally going freaking mental. Jack the car up grab the filter and its loose as fuck. I know that filter was mega tight i was pissed off even more because id just put another $30 worth of new Fusch oil in her. So i take the bloody spin on conversion off and fine the problem is.... That the filter is only just touching the seal before it runs out of thread, making it feel tight and slightly seal. I have no idea how it came undone. There must have been no pressure on the filters seal. It was still holding 60odd psi though. The filter was wrong because it's mounting point was outwards not inwards. Anyhow BNT gave me a trade account and a free filter. Though i really wanted the $90 of oil id wasted on oiling my driveway and the $30 id spent on Cum Kleen << So problem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemi Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 damn shoulda thoguht of that , happens quite often when you cross over filters etc , good that you found it , but gay that it took so much oil and 'cumkleen' , to sort it. welcome to my world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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