ThePog Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 A large ergonomically designed easy open sachet of win for the person who can tell me what engine this manifold is off..... And if you want it it is for sale going veeeeery cheeep. Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePog Posted April 29, 2008 Author Share Posted April 29, 2008 And to narrow it down it is almost certainly an east west, and hence probably a front wheel drive engine. I deduct this because the carbs on it were DCNF webers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclejake Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 I don't know and I can't see why you think it is an east west engine. What I do see is likely OHC, possibly precrossflow (but the port spacing is a bit wide), probably alloy head and water cooled. They are possibly Datsun L series and could be two of three manifolds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyteler Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Not L-series and I would say they're from a crossflow design, simply because there's too much meat on the mounting face to allow for an exhaust branches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePog Posted April 30, 2008 Author Share Posted April 30, 2008 I don't know and I can't see why you think it is an east west engine. The carb mounting is for twin Weber DCNF's which is what was bolted to the manifold. These have a float bowl orientated for an east west engine or a V type - these carbs are used on V6 Capri's, X1/9's, Maserati V6's etc. So unless someone designed a manifold knowing the carbs were going to be orientated incorrectly, it is for an east west engine. End of lecture/uninformed rant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuel Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 also if it were north south mounted the manifold would usually be slanted so the carbs sit level while the engine is tilted down a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyteler Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 ...but if it's an aftermarket manifold for a particular set of carbs it would take the slant of the motor and angle of fuel bowl into consideration. I still think it could easily be for both/either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishtailfred Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 I doubt it's a 6 because you can see the gasket outline all the way round and the join in the middle. = 4 or possibly half a set from an 8, but unlikely. Definitely crossflow of some sort unless the ports were very strange indeed for the ex side. The east west thing seems logical for another reason too : firewall space. they are designed to be stumpy, and would sit fairly tall needing a lot of room upwards. So, transverse with the inlets at the back and ex on the front. That rules out some vw engines at least. Not sure what else. Other than that, I have no idea Interested to see/hear though. Fred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclejake Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 I doubt it's a 6 because you can see the gasket outline all the way round and the join in the middleFred. But why the join in the middle and the half cut bolt holes? The half cuts look like they would accept an exhaust manifold but the inlet spacings are too wide for ant precrossflow I can think of. Some odd pre-crossflow OHC engines (yes they exists) have the exhaust ports significantly below the inlet ports. HOWEVER!!! I am not arguing with anyone on this thread. I treuwly have no idea what kind of motor these manifolds are off - except to say that I think it unlikely that they are from a diesel This topic has me stumped. Do the casting numbers start with WO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclejake Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 I don't know and I can't see why you think it is an east west engine. The carb mounting is for twin Weber DCNF's which is what was bolted to the manifold. These have a float bowl orientated for an east west engine or a V type - these carbs are used on V6 Capri's, X1/9's, Maserati V6's etc. So unless someone designed a manifold knowing the carbs were going to be orientated incorrectly, it is for an east west engine. End of lecture/uninformed rant. Would that rule above also apply to a boxer engine? You are talking of things I know little about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest vvega Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 brabbam cast anywhere on it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishtailfred Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Yeah, I guess there could be a middle one missing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePog Posted April 30, 2008 Author Share Posted April 30, 2008 I think it is definitely a 4 cylinder crossflow as the carbs were linked up in the middle, as per most twin sidedraft or downdraft setups, and set up like this the head side flanges were right next to each other.... The port spacing looks to be the same for all 4 too. The casting numbers are WO 6264 - 2001 on both parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePog Posted April 30, 2008 Author Share Posted April 30, 2008 I don't know and I can't see why you think it is an east west engine. The carb mounting is for twin Weber DCNF's which is what was bolted to the manifold. These have a float bowl orientated for an east west engine or a V type - these carbs are used on V6 Capri's, X1/9's, Maserati V6's etc. So unless someone designed a manifold knowing the carbs were going to be orientated incorrectly, it is for an east west engine. End of lecture/uninformed rant. Would that rule above also apply to a boxer engine? You are talking of things I know little about Boxer engines have inlet port pairs running north south, so take IDF style downdrafts. VW/Alfa 33 carbs can be used on rear drive fiat twin cams (or anything similar) with the correct manifold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest vvega Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 rover metro inlet manifold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePog Posted April 30, 2008 Author Share Posted April 30, 2008 You might have won the prize..... http://www.davebence.co.uk/onyx_firefox/build_6.htm http://www.mgf.ultimatemg.com/group2/co ... engine.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclejake Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 ^ I looked at those motors when hunting on your behalf yesterday but all the ones I saw were injected and had a single plane manifold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePog Posted April 30, 2008 Author Share Posted April 30, 2008 Done a bit of looking - seems that it is an early K series engine either 8 valve or 16 valve 1.4/ 1.6 litre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePog Posted April 30, 2008 Author Share Posted April 30, 2008 Your prize; http://orz.4chan.org/hr/src/1209575785985.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoozin Posted May 1, 2008 Share Posted May 1, 2008 Taken from one of your links. Most disgusting kit car ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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