Guest LukeNukem Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 Oh, and I wasnt saying, dont do the exhaust, just that it should come after the engine work is done. Wider pipes and headers always make a nice differance, make the engine a bit more responsive. I was just complaining about the way it was done, "tuned extractors" is just a label, aslong as they give a good path, they will be good, if they have any major kinks or bends, dont bother. And a milo can on the back is just pointless unless you like the lawnmower sound. Lowlancer, where are you at, I can help sort out an engine if you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LukeNukem Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 JUST GET A BIGGER FUCKIN ENGINE.... ah okay then, 511cube V8's for everyone!!!! unforunatly mate, it doesnt always work this way, he may want to stay 1600 for a reason, maybe to preserve the the car in its 'factory' state, maybe he wants to enter in racing classes for <1600 cars, he may infact want to do alot of things hence why he asked about modding his engine not upsizing it... True, true... V8's for everyone, even the guy with the mini Will, thats what I was saying, dont know whay I didnt write those words though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowlancer Posted October 24, 2004 Author Share Posted October 24, 2004 I don't want to change to a 2 litre, seeing as they only make 25 more HP than my 1600, too much hassle for too little gain. If it's going to be quite expensive to do all that I'll just flag it and think about an engine conversion in a couple of years. My exhaust system does have a coby by the way, sounds quite nice as well. 2" from manifold with coby then dumper muffler at the end of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_8v Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 Heh... Feel for me, I'm going it to gain one more cam (okay, and a few HP...) Apparantly engine swaps aren't too bad, esp if you get some mates and some people who know what to do and have a BBQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 78lancer Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 lukenukem: i am in palmy 2 n do u no of any 4g32s at any wrckers or any 4 private sale? n what car u drivin n have u seen my 78 lancer, gay orangey colour round town?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowlancer Posted October 24, 2004 Author Share Posted October 24, 2004 If you're gonna do an engine conversion, go with the 2 litre 4G52, may as well, and won't cost much more. Should go straight in too, or very easily. That's what I'd do if I could afford it. Gotta get manual first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FUKD50 Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 If you dont mind me asking. The 2L conversion isnt just a straight swap is it?? Just bolt it in and plug in the plugs and youre away. Do you have to change any of the wiring?? or is the 16oo wiring the same?? are all the plugs for the carby the same or what??what about manifolds?? What exactly do you have to change?? is it just the short engine??if that makes sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowlancer Posted October 24, 2004 Author Share Posted October 24, 2004 Well it is for the older lancers cos they came out with the 4G32, as did my celeste, but the celeste also came with the 4G52, so we can assume that since both had the 4G32, the Lancer will also fit the 4G52. And the Lancer and Celeste share floorpans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FUKD50 Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 Yeah but, will the wiring be the same or will you need a 2L wiring loom?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FUKD50 Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 Why dont you do a 2L conversion and a manual box conversion all at once??] http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 417045.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowlancer Posted October 25, 2004 Author Share Posted October 25, 2004 Mines better If I had money for that, I'd buy it. I'm gonna do everything next year when I'm not living at home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LukeNukem Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 lukenukem: i am in palmy 2 n do u no of any 4g32s at any wrckers or any 4 private sale? n what car u drivin n have u seen my 78 lancer, gay orangey colour round town?? Dude, ring the bunnythorpe wreckers, they have a few, yellow pages man... And, I may have seen your car, orange was a bit dull and was parked on waldergrave st on saturday? Far as my conversion went, bolted in, turn key! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowlancer Posted October 25, 2004 Author Share Posted October 25, 2004 What was your conversion? Into what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LukeNukem Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 '79 Sigma/Galant, from 2.0L (dropped piston) to 1600 (not powerful enough after the 2.0L) back to a 2.0L, all drop in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rxtoy Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 carby engines should wire up easy as anyway, no matter what sort they are. off the top of my head the only wires should be 3 to the starter motor, an earth from the engine to the chassis, the lead from the coil to the distributor, maybe a couple of wires from the distributor depending on whether its got an internal or external ignitor, and sensor's: water temp, oil pressure (maybe). shouldn't be much more than that, anybody who'd done some basic engine maintenance should be able to hook all that stuff up easy as. all old mitsi's have this shit pretty much the same so yeah, it'll go straight in. computer type shit is where it starts getting hard, believe me. cheers Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FUKD50 Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 Well it looks like Im gettin meself a 2L look out for me then. hehehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoozin Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 was just complaining about the way it was done, "tuned extractors" is just a label, aslong as they give a good path, they will be good, if they have any major kinks or bends, dont bother. Not entirely true, depending on the specs of your engine, "tuning" extractors to suit can be a valuable performance aid. OK so admittedly on a relatively unmodified engine such as the subject matter at hand, designing a correct set of extractors is of less benefit. But factors such as port design, CR, squish, intake velocity, conbustion chamber capacity, etc etc. all influence how you can design a set of extractors.... then you start delving into different lengths of primary pipes, secondary pipes (if you use for example a 4-2-1 layout on a 4cyl engine) and also diameters of these pipes, and then the "tuning" label as you put it comes into play, as varying exhaust design can influence where maximum torque, power etc. comes in, just to generalise a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LukeNukem Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 Yeah , I know alfa, just its never been very noticeable for me, a slight differance in response, but bugger all differance in torque/power/rev... If the pipes have all had the same width, and bugger all sevre bends. I've found (in my own experiances with a worked 2.0L pinto in a corty), that the differant extractors available made fuck all differance, if you could even tell at all, I just gave the exhaust gasses the widest, straightest path out into the open, and it run fuckin well. I ended up with a 4-1 config, since the individual pipes for each combustion chamber, were 1 1/2", and went to a 3" by 2" (width-height) oval pipe, it ran bloody quick, revved high quite fast, had wicked response and torque, the bloody thing used to do half metre high wheelies everywhere if you dropped the clutch, including smoking up nicely. I got the corty with a so-called "tuned" extractor already in, didnt run too bad, but it did fuck all apart from look pretty, my own setup was still a hellofalot better though. Just get those wasted gasses out-a-there as fast as... But of course, everyones experiance is differant, and Im only speaking from my own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowlancer Posted October 26, 2004 Author Share Posted October 26, 2004 Can any of you mitsy nuts tell me if I could put the 1400 or 1200 pistons in from 4g33 or 4g36? Kinda like what those eski guys do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 78lancer Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 lukemukem: u said u had a 1600, do u still got it n is it 4 sale??? and wat other old mitsi engines do u have lyin around??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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