SOHC Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Hello I have a 64 Kombi bus with steering witch jambs every now then, I pulled the steering box apart and found some funny thinhs, I think someone has glued a spacer somewhere where it souldn't go, you can see in my pic its was on the selector shaft, if any one could identify where that spacer should go would be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOHC Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 You can see on the cover where is is hitting the ribs, the steering would lock up and you would have to give it a good hard wrench to free it up, some bastard and glued it on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borgweiser Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Looks to me like you are missing something, also don't think that spacer is the original one. I would suggest stripping whole box and looking for damage to bushes, worm etc first before proceeding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOHC Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 Looks to me like you are missing something, also don't think that spacer is the original one.I would suggest stripping whole box and looking for damage to bushes, worm etc first before proceeding I think its the opposite, I have something extra, I striped the whole box down, there is one ball bearing missing from one of the races, did a dry build with out that spacer and it works mint. Have no idea why someone would put it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclejake Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 This gives me a bad feeling and I think you need an exploded diagram of the steering box. What is that on the white cloth in this photo? It doesn't look like a bearing race but it is hard to tell. http://kustomcoachwerks.com/forums/view ... f8c0889a91 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclejake Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Dunno if this is the righ diagram, and it is pretty coarse http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/347/11lf8.jpg/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borgweiser Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Pretty much my feeling, the way a steering box behaves on the road is different to on the bench. I would check everything over again and use the prescribed method- ie consult actual VW manual before proceeding. I would hate for another splitty to end up wrecked because of a steering seizure.. The top cap being rubbed by the peg tells me there isn't enough shims TBH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclejake Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 On a closer look at the photos it makes no sense whatsoever for that spacer to be where it was (assuming I am looking correctly) unless it was a bodgy repair due to something else allowing the pitman arm selector shaft to push up(?) onto that cover. You would lose all steering in that scenario. Could the mystery spacer belong between the pitman arm and the steering box housing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOHC Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 This gives me a bad feeling and I think you need an exploded diagram of the steering box.What is that on the white cloth in this photo? It doesn't look like a bearing race but it is hard to tell. http://kustomcoachwerks.com/forums/view ... f8c0889a91 In the photo I can see that spacer thing sitting on the rag in the bottom left, its sitting with the shims for that bottom cap, I think it may be to space the bottom ball race up, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOHC Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 Pretty much my feeling, the way a steering box behaves on the road is different to on the bench. I would check everything over again and use the prescribed method- ie consult actual VW manual before proceeding.I would hate for another splitty to end up wrecked because of a steering seizure.. The top cap being rubbed by the peg tells me there isn't enough shims TBH Yes I will try to find a exploded diagram to see where everything goes, and do the final ajustments with it in the car. The top cap has been rubbed cause someone shoved that spacer in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisu Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Have a look here http://www.vintagebus.com/ under the Parts section of a kombi page 255 if you need more details or other parts I will try and dig out the rebuilding section - such as tolerances and stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisu Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I couldn't find the tolerances - it is in a late 50's VW repair manual. But this has a step by step of what you are doing here and this is where I found it. here In case you have any other issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOHC Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 Have a look here http://www.vintagebus.com/ under the Parts section of a kombi page 255 if you need more details or other parts I will try and dig out the rebuilding section - such as tolerances and stuff. Cool thank you, I can just make out in that diagram the spacer isn't there, I will report back tomorrow with my findings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOHC Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 I fixed it, that spacer was jammed in the wrong place, made a new shim for the bottom plate and it seems to work fine now, thank you all for the links with the photos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raizer Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 there is one ball bearing missing from one of the races Are you sure there is one missing or is there just room where one more to fit? I have always been told that with loose ball set ups you fill the race with however many balls fit then take one out to leave a gap so the balls are pressed against each over or something to that effect.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOHC Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 there is one ball bearing missing from one of the races Are you sure there is one missing or is there just room where one more to fit? I have always been told that with loose ball set ups you fill the race with however many balls fit then take one out to leave a gap so the balls are pressed against each over or something to that effect.. I could fit 2 more in, but like you say its good to leave a gap or they won't work, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoBilly Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Have a look here http://www.vintagebus.com/ under the Parts section of a kombi page 255 if you need more details or other parts I will try and dig out the rebuilding section - such as tolerances and stuff. Cool thank you, I can just make out in that diagram the spacer isn't there, I will report back tomorrow with my findings. is that spacer not number 19 in that image? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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