Stacov Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Just had some crazy thoughts come thru my mind just now got a couple of questions 1. when installing spring e.g. dobi etc.. they arent markd in anyway so is there a top/bottom ? 2. when car is jacked up should i beable to sightly turn the spring with my hand? Just wondering cause i had it slip out of the top hat abit so got me wondering have i screwed something up and put it in wrong they are in my mk2 escort cheers lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlownCorona Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 if you can spin it its 'captive' but only by about 1/100 of a mm, there should be enough tension to hold it tight and thus avoid it slipping out. were the springs new or second hand? ive had issues with some 2nd hand direct replacement mr2 springs, they guy had them installed in shorter shocks and compressed them so they weren't usable in standard shocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorensin Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Hey I had dobi's in my mk1 they are NOT captive with standard inserts, I had new inserts machines down 15mm which made them just captive, I tried having them machined down 10mm but they still didnt have enough tension to stop me turning them. I also have some king springs which to the best of my memory they were captive with standard inserts. When you buy new springs they usually have a small print out which tells you which way to put the springs in, im pretty sure its the end with the springs more compressed at the bottom but have been told it doesn't really matter as long as they sit in the groove/seat properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlownCorona Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 just out of curiosity, what happens if you cut the top hat thread another 15mm?/bad idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 They are brand new, didnt get any bits of paper what so ever with it. It was only the driver side giving me issues hopefully suited now. Yeah can only move it a 1mm either way only when jackded up once car is down its all tensioned. i have no idea why it slipd out abit all i did was drive down the road turn a couple of times and it had slipd out abit. With my old skyline i could move the springs by hand aswell never affected its driving tho lol Sounds like a common issue and not just me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlownCorona Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 that spring is just plain not captive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingbrick Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Is a spring classed as captive if it is loose but has a strut up the middle so it cant fall out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCADTA Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 To get certified i had to put my springs with da progression at the top. Thete is a difference in strut body length between mk1 and mk2 also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorensin Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 not that its relevant because his springs are not captive but im pretty sure im running mk2 struts in my mk1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCADTA Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 not that its relevant because his springs are not captive but im pretty sure im running mk2 struts in my mk1 as am i, but the shock body/casings are different lengths between mk1 and mk2, so if you have mk1 struts which you usually need for your top hats if they are the larger diameter in mk2 escort sruts, they are slightly longer and will leave your dobinson lowering springs uncaptive. trust me i have had to sort this before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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