crown_down Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 i have a 1983 toyota crown motor is a bit slow for my liking was wondering what other motors bolt straight into the car i dont mind changing to manual i believe the model is ms112 and the motor is 5meu any help would be good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R100 Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 The 5meu is around 160hp, maybe a bit less depending on the model. The twincam version 5mgeu is 170hp . Im not sure if it will bolt up but a 7mgeu could be an option. Reasonably easy to find and good for 200hp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crown_down Posted August 22, 2010 Author Share Posted August 22, 2010 what do you have to do to them to get more horse power out of them??? if i dont have to change motor would be alot easier and cheaper i was wondering if sipra 1ggte would bolt straight in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatestben Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 From my experience, Car's with and M series motor with have a different crossmember to one with G series engine. In fact even going from a 1geu to 1ggte I found the mounts to be different/incompatible. I'm talking *X8*'s here but just giving you a heads up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 ^ crown has a full chassis and they are all the same. Engines in crowns have a unique mid sump arrangement so its usually easier to find an engine from a crown to start with The easiest swap would be to a 5mge (6mge if you can find one), they go a soo much better than a 5meu will ever go. You can pretty much pick up a 5mge for beer money, there's plenty around in 70 series cressidas. 7MGE's are dogs I would avoid them, you wont find many around that arn't fucked Any of the G series engines will bolt in if you find the correct mounts, so 1ggze and 1ggte could be options. If you can fab engine mounts a 1jzge or 2jzge would be my preffered option, if you find one from a crown it will go in piece of piss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crown_down Posted August 22, 2010 Author Share Posted August 22, 2010 thenks for that will start looking see what i can find Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Depending on how soon ya want an engine, I have a 5MGE in my crown that I will be replacing soon. It's a bit tired, burns a little bit of oil, but still runs sweet. Although the engine will bolt straight to factory engine mounts, and up to your current gearbox, there's still a lot of other things to take into account. Have a look at my build thread to get an idea of what you'll need to do. Because you already have a 5M in there, certain things will be easier ie factory throttle cable will probably still work, whereas I had to convert mine from linkage to cable, heater pipes may need to be rerouted, and then you have the wiring and fuel. At least you won't need to start from scratch with the wiring, but I don't know how interchangeable it is between the two engines so you may still need to mess around with that to get everything operational. Fortunately, you shouldn't have to touch the fuel system. Maybe upgrade the fuel pump just in case though. A general rule with engine conversions however, estimate how much you think it's gonna cost, then multiply by 4. Even for a straight "bolt in" job you'll find costs you never expected.\ Also, Got some spare front hubs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 ^ I agree, his will be allot easier than yours as you said as its already EFI. The only thing to watch is you get the Auto control ECU when you get your 5mge otherwise you wont change gears. All up its only really about 5 wires that will need splicing to get it going, fuel pump will do the job no worries, the existing lines will bolt onto the fuel rail. Drive shaft will be the same. Out of every bolt in conversion the 5/6mge is by far the easiest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldspark Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 If you can fab engine mounts a 1jzge or 2jzge would be my preffered option, if you find one from a crown it will go in piece of piss here are some xJZ mounts for ma6x drawings if ur wanting to go this way http://s224.photobucket.com/albums/dd10 ... CKET-B.png http://s224.photobucket.com/albums/dd108/wilbo666/?action=view¤t=5M-xJZDSPS-ENGINEBLOCKPLATE-A.png http://s224.photobucket.com/albums/dd108/wilbo666/?action=view¤t=5M-xJZDS-ENGINEMOUNTPLATE-A.png http://s224.photobucket.com/albums/dd108/wilbo666/?action=view¤t=5M-xJZPS-ENGINEMOUNTPLATE-A.png http://s224.photobucket.com/albums/dd108/wilbo666/?action=view¤t=5M-xJZPS-ENGINEMOUNT-C.png http://s224.photobucket.com/albums/dd108/wilbo666/?action=view¤t=5M-xJZDS-ENGINEMOUNT-C.png http://s224.photobucket.com/albums/dd10 ... C03846.jpg http://s224.photobucket.com/albums/dd108/wilbo666/?action=view¤t=tn_DSC03848.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 ^ sweet but they wont work in the crown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldspark Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 the crown M series isnt it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Yeah, but they have different mounts from the MA supras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 YEa full chassis makes for allot different mounting points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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