Vintage Grumble Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Got a few questions for the proper panel beaters out there: When you have patched a hole with new steel, do you etch primer the steel before you bog or is it better to bog straight onto the steel? What brand/type of bog is best for finishing? What tools are a must have to do a decent job of panel beating? Any hammers or dollies you can recommend? Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Apologies for semi hijack but thought it might be worth while adding, I was searching old threads for brands for etch primer and bog over the weekend and found some contradictory stuff so also keen to find out. If anyone can clarify the difference between etch and epoxy primer as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Mk1 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Always etch over bare metal and then bog, I like K&H Technique for a bog. Can finish nicely with that bog in 320 grit. Tool wise, its hard to know when to stop, as I was a restoration PB, i have shitloads. You probably wont want too much of to spend much unless your doing it often? Those kits you get from repco etc with a few hammers and a few dollys are terrible. Get them for the dollys, linish them smooth, and throw the hammers away promptly. Spent a bit on a nice hammer and you will have it for years. ie. Etch and Epoxy primer are the same thing. MUST USE 2K TYPE THAT SEALS BARE METAL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock-Lee Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 etch primer is typically a single pack primer used to spray onto bare metal to help subsiquent coats adhere to the painted surface. pa10 etc epoxy primer is a 2 pak primer that can be used as a DTM/direct to metal base coat as well. different shit similar result thats my take on it. no doubt I will be told its wrong in about 30 sec EDIT: I was wrong before I even posted it. etch primers in a single pack work mean too. the shop that was gonna spray my car reccomended pa10 to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulletz Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 I gotta agree, we always etch prime first then skim with bog....remember that bog can absorb moisture so yoou don't want that shit next to your bare steel!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Mk1 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Also, bog will peel straight off metal, as it cant key in and stick to it as well as primer/etch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage Grumble Posted June 4, 2009 Author Share Posted June 4, 2009 Thanks for all the info guys, very helpful. Gay thing is I got stuck into this last night and turns out rust is pretty damn bad, I dont have the tools or skills to sort this, and will prolly end up fucking it up, so am going to have to pay someone to do it. So looks like its gonna get panel and paint very soon. Will be nice to have it all one shade of blue Just sucks I will have to sell van or drum kit to pay for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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