escortwags Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Howdy yall G/F's MK1 Cortina floor change gearbox is getting tired in that getting into 1st and fourth is a mishion sometimes no crunching just the bitch wont go in without some forceful and right rev action Question is what oil would be best to put in her to sooth it out??? and what is the problem with it??... gearbox never pops out of gear, doesnt whine, and doesnt crunch seems to also have bad and good days any help would be uber appreciated Chur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage Grumble Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 My old rolla gear box used to clip into 3rd and 4th, and a dude told me to mix like 1/3 ATF with normal gear oil, so I gave it a go, and shit me, it worked super well, might help with your problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthy one Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Castrol epx80-90 brother we use it all the time in noisey worn gear boxes on mowers n tractors etc., Real good shit works real well designed for automotive gearboxs in extreme condtions.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclejake Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Howdy yallG/F's MK1 Cortina floor change gearbox is getting tired in that getting into 1st and fourth is a mishion sometimes no crunching just the bitch wont go in without some forceful and right rev action ) Could be that there is no gasket between the box and bellhousing and that some crud has gotten in there and the rails are hitting the crud against the bellhousing.The cure is to remove the bellhousing and shallow drill it where the rails protrude from the gearbox to give a touch more clearance. Otherwise smack so thinner oil in it (it should be Hypoid 90 right now) and see if the syncro thingiees spin up bit quicker getting another year of so out of it before the box needs to come out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escortwags Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 so put some ol epx80-90 in her then or hypoid 90? the oil thats in it at the mo is just plain dirty gearbox oil (cant remember ratio but its just shitty shit from repco), could this been 80% of the problem then? Cheers for the help EDIT: really cant be bothered taking the box off again just done the clutch (yes im a lazy prick) just want to cruise again it does f'all km's (under 3000kms a year) so im pretty keen on a quick fix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclejake Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 My post was not clear, sorry. Hypoid 90 was (IIRC) the factory recommendation and I am assuming it is what is in the box now. You want to try something different. Personally I use Redline Liteshock in my three rail Cortina gearboxes but you might not want to spend the money on that stuff. It works for me but my boxes get rebuilt every 500 miles or so. EDIT: For some reason I was thinking your problem was in second and fourth which would point to the rails being the problem. As it is actually first and fourth gears that are giving you shit a binding rail is less likely to be the issue. Tell her to try puting the box in second gear with her foot on the clutch before she selects first and lemme know if that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escortwags Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 i see.. im pretty shure i dont have that oil in it at the mo.. my bad so you have no oil recomendations then? or should i stop being a lazy prick and take it off and inspect? its not thaaaaaat bad just g/f gets annoyed sitting at lights then go to take off and having to ram it in gear most the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclejake Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 its not thaaaaaat bad just g/f gets annoyed sitting at lights then go to take off and having to ram it in gear most the time Are you certain you don't have a dragging clutch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortron Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 e. Tell her to try puting the box in second gear with her foot on the clutch before she selects first and lemme know if that helps. cone - poked syncro works with the morrie on 1st and reverse as tehy are straight cut - doing this lets you "borrow" the syncro from the other gears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclejake Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 [works with the morrie on 1st and reverse as tehy are straight cut - doing this lets you "borrow" the syncro from the other gears ALLthe gears in my Cortina box are straight cut (trew) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escortwags Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 I suck at doing quotes buttt.... Pretty much thats what she has to do to get it in gear..same with going down to fourth have to fiddle with 3rd and the revs...seems to gwt better after a long drive slighty which would maybe point to ive f**kd up and put in oil thats way to thick? EDIT: dam you straight cut geared bastard haha by dragging clutch do you mean its not fully engaging??? if so the answer is no just replaced it and is working mint adjusted to correct "play" in the pedal feals like neeeew EDIT: ahhaa double edit, im shure ive read somewhere that first is dogged? or was that another old ford im thiking of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclejake Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 ^ possibly. Try something different. If you are a cheap arse smack some 30/40 engine oil in there and see if it makes a difference. That is what we used to put in flogged Mk2 Jaguar boxes for racing a "little" while ago *coughs* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclejake Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 by dragging clutch do you mean its not fully dis-engaging??? Yhup. To check get car on level ground, start engine, select a gear with foot on clutch and no brakes. Have a glamourous assistanst push the car forwards and then backwards and observe the resistance to the pushing effort in both directions.If she had that much trouble with fourth gear too then it probably isn't the clutch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escortwags Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 hmm i can think of one person id like to see be slowly run over haha arggggghhh forgot to mention probably the most important piece to the puzzle?!?! when cars off and you select threw the gears everything is real stiff and clunkish like something is rubbing along something else (hard to explain)..especialy when in neutral you basically have to force side to side movement (not like a normal box when you can basicaly do circles) its frigin wierd????? EDIT: tired at work, not a cheap arse i want a quick fix dont care how much some magic oil will cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclejake Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Umm. That is kind of significant. Is this a three rail or single rail box and if it is three rail does it have a remote shifter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escortwags Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 argh yes burn me for being a muppet it is a...three..rail..brains not functioning its a standard remote shifted mk1 cortina box stick comes out where others have a handbrake..this one has a ute style one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escortwags Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 if it means anything we swaped boxes as the other one was crunching in second..but had a nice neautral and went smoothly into gear bar shitty second..still have that box if there is an operation between the two that needs doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclejake Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 OK. I remember you changing the box in February last year but did not remember it whas a remote shifter that you fitted. Remove the gear lever boot and take a look at the nylon block that is underneath the lever. Observe how much clearance there is and if the base of the lever is fouling the nylon block (which is the reverse stop). You can take the block off (one bolt) and fiddle around with the lever to see if it feels better when the engine isn't going. After that try a bit of lube on the pivot ball that is an inch or two above the bolt that connects the lever to the single linkage rod. I also remember advising you to drill the bellhousing at the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escortwags Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 hmm this mystery is getting deep i was meaning the handbrake being a ute style... oh shit im usless "been working on the mazda for to long" !!!! its not a remote the shifters one of those daddy long legs ones..and from memory doesnt have a mylon ball on the bottom of the lever its just metal vs. metal is it meant to be like this? sorry for being so frigin useless in this problem will be much better to deal with in the morning cheers uncle for your help MEGA EDIT: ended up not going for the mk3 box as we found a place that sells new pressure plates (the old 3 prong ones) for $60 which i thought was fair so shes still all original which is mint but causes headaches especialy when i suck at explaining Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclejake Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Giz a photo of the gearlever and where it connects to the gearbox? I am a bit confused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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