fishtailfred Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 Hi, i posted this up a while back when i first signed up and due to a few things it ended up deleted. Lost motivation to post it again for while, but found it this morning. Hopefully its in the right place now I'll put the other two posts after this one as they were. here is the comments thread that should hopefully get tacked onto the end of this one after i repost the material so its all in one place out of the projects section //oldschool.co.nz/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=11936 brb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishtailfred Posted December 14, 2007 Author Share Posted December 14, 2007 This vehicle is the first in the world to run a Puma board (as designed by Marcos/nitrousnrg) and the second to run FreeEMS! It's the first to run FreeEMS with ignition, first with COP, first with boost, first in New Zealand, etc etc. It's pretty special to me for a variety of reasons, not least of which is that I learned to drive in it. It's been with me for 2/3 of my life and i've had a lot of good times, and bad, and fond memories in, on, and around this truck. The truck used to run a moderately modified ms2e/V3 with various short falls and flaws with the original design fixed or patched. Hence the db37 connector, during development I wanted to keep it mobile and plug and play compatible with my custom ms box. I'm happy to say that I will never run MegaSquirt on any of my vehicles again. Man it felt good to type that! If you've got the time, skill, and desire, you should get involved in testing FreeEMS and helping it mature and grow too. on with the pics : my customised Puma board, running 4cyl COP using the built in XOR driver chip to control the ignitors. the back of it with the fuel/batt box clearly visible behind the hinged number plate front view nearly ready to go with my mate mops standing working on something four stock fe3 coils, four stock fe3 ignitors, chinese fpr, modified fuel rail, 550cc rx7 injectors (maxxed out for approx 385bench crank hp) rivetted intercooler plumbing with a pair of nissan skyline gtr blow off valves in a stock housing with 50mm inlet and twin 38mm outlets intake side of the engine bay custom plenum with 1uzfe 70mm throttle body from the lexus/toyota 4l 280hp v8 one of the biggest simota air filters you can get with 6" to 4" toilet plumbing to the turbo the inside of that plenum showing the totally smooth path that the air has to flow through to get into the engine where 3" end of downpipe meets 3" exhaust exhaust side from above with manifold, turbo, wastegate, downpipe and coolant plumbing all visible and from its prettiest angle hand crafted 4" to 3" downpipe with hand turned on lathe vband flange for turbo and flexi for the wastegate the nearly perfectly straight 3" exhaust with two straight through mufflers, also showing the 130 s/s m8 csk screws holding down the 17mm plywood deck where the battery lives with 4 fused 5ag outlets and one 100ampere circuit breaker with 50mmsq cable going to block and starter and 8ga going to ms and another to alternator and a speperate vref to alternator and a sperate fuse for lighting and the last one for the pumps. also 2 8ga local grounds to the ally panels. the rear ally panel from inside showing the two relays for the two fuel pumps, the brake,tail,reverse light relays, and the ground lift all rear lights off the cops are coming relay 044 910 raycar and surge tank. all happy to supply 400+hp of fuel, and peak of about 700-800 through the 3/8 line straight from the 044 to the rail. ex mani on the Persian rug in the lounge just after completion. just after painting holset just fits, mounted with begginings of beautiful hand made merger above. 36-1 crank trigger with bracket and sensor winged lidded sump for zero oil surge under extreme driving (i'm crazy incase you are wondering and pull a G daily everywhere) f2t flywheel with fe smaller ring gear and ligtened and smoothed and shrunk to fit the 240mm clutch in the small 225mm bell housing. about to go in. you can see the coolant plumbing. the periscope one got changed twice after that. type 3/r box visible in background 2 pack laquer paint job on diff housing looking sweet on a warm summers day. a messy summary of whats been done : piecemeal stock long block including : fe5a camshafts ground to fit vr6 valve springs intake retainers/collets on all valves f2t windage tray cut to fit... ...fe-dohc main bearing braces which have been ground to fit the above custom winged sump with top plate to prevent slosh in the very most effective way large oil cooler std on fe5a version pistons are 10:1 variety external to the long block are : custom thin walled equal length mild steel exhaust manifold made with mandrel bends a mig and a couple of laser cut flanges, it incorporates an external 44mm vband wastegate and t3 fitting for ease of downsizing in future if i should so choose, a hand made merge collector filed to perfection on the inside that brings the flow together so well that with the 44mm wastegate wide open a great deal i had 3.5psi by 7k rpm. one holset he351cw hy35 hy9 turbo from a 2006 dodge ram cummins powered diesel pickup truck modified with custom made matching vband flange for dump pipe, removed wastegate actuator, welded up wastegate hole with a steel plug shaped to the inside of the turbine housing for smoothness of flow welded in place and the bracket for the actuator cut off and ground smooth to just fit the engine bay at all, a modified cummins drain pipe that snakes around the compressor housing and engine mount and back to the sump at the full 22mm OD size. dumping to... one full straight through, and you know i mean straight, custom 3" exhaust with the biggest coby reso/tube muff at 18" and a cheapish oval muffler dumping just in front of the diff, initially fed by a 4"to 3" fred welded reducer and smoothly merged in wastegate reentry and ... innovate wideband O2 letting me know that its dead rich. one chinese 44mm vband wastegate with 15psi spring and welded valve lapped to a perfect seal. one "bagel" inlet manifold and plenum to smoothly guide the intake gasses to their firey death with short runners smoothed on the inside and tuned for high rpm power and flow, large plenum volume with throttle directed to allow air to enter all cylinders quite evenly one modified stock fuel rail bored an extra .3mm with blanked stock input and retained fuel pressure dampner and 3/8 inlet fitting and 5/16 outlet to the fpr and... 4 rx7 550cc injectors cleaned by some brakeclean and a heater with new orings and spacers and seals one chinese adjustable fuel pressure regulator and guage returning to tank along the stock tube offset slightly and passing to... the stock feed line that used to supply the carbed engine at 5/16 one brand new 3/8 feed line all the way from the fuel system at the rear one 70mm lexus 1uzfe 4.0l 280ps v8 throttlebody modifed to have no second throttle plate and no air leaks etc and fed by.... one r32 nissan skyline gtr intercooler with 3" inlet and outlet and 3" plumbing with silicone couplers and tbolt clamps and enough flow for more than 500hp mounted fwd of the radiator with short pipes and good airflow over it, cleaned to bare ally by many washings with thinners etc, and with all fins straightened on both front and back to maximise air flow through it one nissan gtr r32 bov housing and two stock bovs from same car attached in the wrong place immediately after the turbo instead of before the throttle with socks and cable ties for air cleaners blowing straight back up into the air filter which is a.... 6" inlet dual cone simota unit (one of the biggest they make) attached by a shortened and lightened and internally sanded pcv feed pipe in 4" ID all the way to the inducer of the turbo a hard oil line with banjo fitting on the turbo and rotating type on the block, with no restrictor and about 1/4" OD line brazed at the ends a customised crank pulley with siera cvh 36-1 wheel grafted on and a nice paint job to make timing light mark id easy a customised f2t flywheel machined down to accept the stock ring gear and go inside the small bellhousing and fitted with a modifed and balanced 1X00 pound pressure plate also machined down to squeeze into that bell with a heavy duty sprung organic LUK clutch disk inside custom coolant lines in 35mm OD steel tube with mandrel bends and quality hose bp 2 stage thermostat residing inside f2 flat thermo housing at the back of the head as it should be 53mm thick R33 jap made full alloy race radiator and two american curved blade fans on the front all supported by... early 90s top mounts from galants, and lowre mounts from same period legacy (same for intercooler) four short bosch ign leads and fours stock fe3 coils and four stock fe3 ignitors controlled by... one modified ms2 v3 unit with provision for leds on all main outputs and COP capability with external switch for bootloading code semi decent wiring setup including dedicated feed to ms from battery, shields on all inputs, dedicated feed to battery from alternator, extra heavy grounds (50mmsq) to block from battery, and same to starter and all other feeds from battery, vref line to alternator from battery itself, heavy ground to ms from head, dirty power feed line from main car system for such things as 02 heater feed etc. at the rear of the vehicle two bosch fuel pumps, one circa 400hp 910 sucking fuel from tank through a big marine filter/water seperator, and feeding a 2l s/s surge tank with 3/8 line, returning excess to the main tank through a 1/4 line to create some residual pressure, and one mother of all bosch pumps 044 sucking from that surge tank and pushing upto 800hp of fuel fwd through the 3/8 line mentioned earlier. battery relocated to behind the diff for weight issues and very short thick wires straight to those pumps from it. all wires from batt either fused or broken for safety and convenience. and the videos (most of which i have pulled at the moment due to potential legal action over my skyline) : http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... 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fishtailfred Posted December 14, 2007 Author Share Posted December 14, 2007 i'm sure you guys know what a red courier looks like, but heres someone elses anyway, just in case you dont as i have no good pics of mine from the front : http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... 1989-2.jpg http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... er1989.jpg this one taken from a video is it : roughly what power its making at the crank : http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... /power.jpg (estimated based on afr, advance, compression, octane, and most importantly, fuel consumption, its flowing 2.2l per minute and isnt overly rich. its hard to not make big power with that occuring. and how much it made before roughly : http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff26 ... o-curv.png diff housing in in primer ready for some gloss : http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... rwhole.jpg the door on my container welded shut to keep her safe while i'm away. http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... 0_4486.jpg the intake being built : http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... 0_4342.jpg http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... 0_4341.jpg http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... 0_4367.jpg ex mani primed : http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... 0_4004.jpg pre primer : http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... 0_3989.jpg chassis pics : http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... eLeft2.jpg http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... sLine2.jpg http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... tGuard.jpg before : http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... InBott.jpg engine guts : http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... 0_3712.jpg http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... 0_3715.jpg sump on : http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... 0_3716.jpg new cams installed : http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... 2_3200.jpg trusty female assistent : http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... 0_3645.jpg trusty assistent named cam : http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... 0_3633.jpg empty engine bay : http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... 0_0131.jpg the turbo : http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/fredio54/1-1.jpg http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... /he351.jpg http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/fredio54/1-2.jpg inside the sump before the top plate : http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... fter-1.jpg outside of some pre paint : http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... sump-5.jpg with plate : http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... sump-7.jpg the team responsible for cop spotting on teh mission to drive it from A to B with no warrant, panels, rego, on hold, etc etc trusy prs and scanner http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... ewHome.jpg stuff i like to do other than cars (warning, these are huge animated gifs) : fishing : http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... tput-2.gif boating : http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... tput-1.gif easily the best engine bay shot i have (taken by someone else while i was busy fixing something that bad broken after a short maidne voyage : that'll do for now fred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoozin Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 Nicely put together nonetheless, FE's are underrated hard I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rxtoy Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 already mentioned it bruv but awesome work, wish i had the persistence and skill to do work that quality. and already mentioned this too but put up a thread over on minitruckin.co.nz whether its bagged or not they still appreciate a nice truck, we're not just into the whole cruising thing, there's some sweet engine conversions (sr20det, rb20det, couple of 13b's, td27t, etc). cheers Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishtailfred Posted December 14, 2007 Author Share Posted December 14, 2007 Thanks (again) guys Its cool, as much as i am all for breaking rules, some rules have a good reason I wonder if a projects subforum to keep any newschool projects of OS members out of the way of general stuff might be better? just a suggestion. might be better to be totally seperate from the other projects and mixed in here anyway for the one/all reason. if i duct tape a 76 front end to it for the day can i bring it to the track (sure hoping so, chelles doesnt run enough of them to keep me satisfied) i'll look into the minitruckin.co.nz site when i get a minute. any questions are welcome too... you could ask about the 200w reversing lights with override for blinding cops or the shared ground dropout switch for removing all rear lighting off to bed for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 if i duct tape a 76 front end to it for the day can i bring it to the track (sure hoping so, chelles doesnt run enough of them to keep me satisfied) Lol have to be cable ties drift style. But yeah most our trackdays arnt just for OS cars in the end. We fill it with as many OS as poss then start filling empty spaces with any car that users have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishtailfred Posted December 15, 2007 Author Share Posted December 15, 2007 sweet does this count : yes, those are cable ties holding the bumper to the grill sorted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 haha clasic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagefumer11 Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Question; Your not running a oil feed restricter to the he351?? From what i understood Holsets needed one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishtailfred Posted December 15, 2007 Author Share Posted December 15, 2007 gidday, correct i am not using one because they are detrimental to turbo life in most cases and not required in most cases. Question; Your not running a oil feed restricter to the he351?? From what i understood Holsets needed one. 11. Holset permits oil return pipes to decline at an overall angle of not less than 30 degrees below horizontal.All turbocharger applications require a pipe of internal diameter greater than 14 mm which has integrated connectors. To ensure oil returns into the engine under all operating conditions, the return connection into the engine sump must not be submerged and the outlet flange of the turbocharger must be 50 mm above the maximum oil level of the engine sump pan. Crankcase pressure should be limited ideally to 0.8 kPa (0.12 lbf/in2) but 1.4 kPa (0.20 lbf/in2) can be accepted by reference to Holset. 12. Oil pressure of 150 kPa (20 lbf/in2) must show at the oil inlet within 3 - 4 seconds of engine firing to prevent damage to turbocharger bearing system. A flexible supply pipe is recommended. 13. The minimum oil pressure when the engine is on load must be 210 kPa (30 lbf/in2). Maximum permissible operating pressure is 500 kPa (72 lbf/in2) although 600 kPa (88 lbf/in2 is permitted during cold start up. Under idling conditions pressure should not fall below 70 kPa (10 lbf/in2). 14. Recommended oil flows for the turbochargers are 2 litre/min at idle and 3 litre/min above maximum torque speed. i got it from the manual here : http://www.holset.co.uk/files/4_4_1-ser ... anuals.php you dont have to run their executable, its just a zip file. unzip it as normal. in summary, most turbos that are journal bearing dont need a restrictor. most BB turbos DO need one. whats important is that the drain to the sump is good, and the crank pressure low. hope that helps fred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishtailfred Posted December 15, 2007 Author Share Posted December 15, 2007 and from garrets site : The journal bearing system in a turbo functions very similarly to the rod or crank bearings in an engine. These bearings require enough oil pressure to keep the components separated by a hydrodynamic film. If the oil pressure is too low, the metal components will come in contact causing premature wear and ultimately failure. If the oil pressure is too high, leakage may occur from the turbocharger seals. With that as background, an oil restrictor is generally not needed for a journal-bearing turbocharger except for those applications with oil-pressure-induced seal leakage. Remember to address all other potential causes of leakage first (e.g., inadequate/improper oil drain out of the turbocharger, excessive crankcase pressure, turbocharger past its useful service life, etc.) and use a restrictor as a last resort. http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobyga ... s.html#t16 enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thousand Dollar Supercar Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 i had 3.5psi by 7k rpm. Three point five psi? Your mama blows harder than that! 200W reversing lights though, that's kickass. Is that why you need such chunky battery cable, or did you install a 50hp starter motor for getting you home if you blow the engine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishtailfred Posted December 17, 2007 Author Share Posted December 17, 2007 i had 3.5psi by 7k rpm. Three point five psi? Your mama blows harder than that! LOL, that was with the wastegate wide open, it felt soooo good, dead flat torque. brilliant. felt pretty damn good getting pushed into the seat too though, must admit. making about 185hp with the "wind" and 385 with 17.5psi boost. estimates based on fuel duty and therefore flow. 200W reversing lights though, that's kickass. Is that why you need such chunky battery cable, or did you install a 50hp starter motor for getting you home if you blow the engine? rotflmao, yeah, i always wanted great reversing lights, so i built them right into the design for this they are brilliant to have too. cracked me up on the test drives, back into some poor sleepy buggers drive to turn around and light up their entire house like an xmas tree! never again will i not see something when reversing! aaaaaannnnnddddddd you call yourself an electrical engineer??? 50sqmm at 4m 25sqmm at 2m 12.5sqmm at 1m 6.25sqmm at 0.5mm (its actually more like a 5 metre run too) ie, its comparable or worse voltage drop wise to the oem starter leads that are most cars. its actually got a nice late model jap planetary box style starter that goes faster, lasts longer, is lighter, and draws less current doing it. i did it for the voltage drop, not the overall current rating. both things should be considered when choosing wire for any application and i dont like underkill or kill. its overkill all the way baby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishtailfred Posted December 17, 2007 Author Share Posted December 17, 2007 here ya go : that doesnt do it justice really, but you get the idea sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thousand Dollar Supercar Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 you call yourself an electrical engineer??? Not really, but I've learnt about voltage drops, loose connections and bad earths: Voltage drop, thy name is Alfa Romeo! Questions like "Why are the headlights dim?", "Why are the wipers so slow?" and "Why does the clock backlighting dim in time with the indicators?" can always be partially explained with a multimeter. So tell us about your hinged numberplate. Is it motorised? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Relays were my best friend when doing the cortina wiring a few weeks back. On escort didnt use them for anything but headlights. This time used them for all and tis way better. Numberplate hinges are FTW, but when you have a car too distinguishable they often no good. Still FTW for cameras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoozin Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 I think plate hinges, and 200w reversing lights intended to blind cops is a pile of wank myself. For reversing though, they'd be the shiz! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishtailfred Posted December 18, 2007 Author Share Posted December 18, 2007 you call yourself an electrical engineer??? Not really, but I've learnt about voltage drops, loose connections and bad earths: Voltage drop, thy name is Alfa Romeo! Questions like "Why are the headlights dim?", "Why are the wipers so slow?" and "Why does the clock backlighting dim in time with the indicators?" can always be partially explained with a multimeter. lmao! So tell us about your hinged numberplate. Is it motorised? i'm thinking strong magnets on it and electromagnets on the chassis, that way they cant really screw you for having a hiding mechanism if you do get caught. nothing like that yet though. its always been a swinging plate on that ute, just now it has proper s/s hinges too Relays were my best friend when doing the cortina wiring a few weeks back. On escort didnt use them for anything but headlights. This time used them for all and tis way better. yup, is definitely the way to go for most stuff for sure. Numberplate hinges are FTW, but when you have a car too distinguishable they often no good. Still FTW for cameras the bigger the city and the further from home you are the better though. it did dawn on me recently that although i used to get away with a lot in that ute that all the builders/tradesmen have bought new ones now so its not so dirt common as it was when it was younger. unfortunate but i'm going to try to keep it externally plain at least from a distance. a set of plain steel wheels are on the list for daily use. I think plate hinges, and 200w reversing lights intended to blind cops is a pile of wank myself. For reversing though, they'd be the shiz! like i said, its always been a swinging plate, and although i fully intend to use such things to good purpose, they are as pointed out multi purpose. the switchability of the reverse lights was primarily so i could park it with the engine idling and use them to do stuff in what would otherwise be darkness behind. i wouldnt like to leave them on with the engine off, and without the switch that couldnt be done. its also going to be a double way switch so that it can be overridden off too. no point blinding poor pricks in traffic and shaking the hot filaments unecessarily during the day etc.. also, dont forget the rear light dropout switch that kills all the lights at the back for those night time runners i didnt do any of that stuff for show. i didnt do anything for show. i did it because i can see it being useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thousand Dollar Supercar Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 it did dawn on me recently that although i used to get away with a lot in that ute that all the builders/tradesmen have bought new ones now so its not so dirt common as it was when it was younger. That would be the case with most cars on this forum. If I had no plates on the Alfa then I got caught on camera during one of my regular bank heists, it wouldn't take the police long to visit the registered address of every black old shape Alfa 33 in Auckland. Find the one with driving lights, a sunroof and a zorst tip, and read the owner his rights. ("You have the right to remain silent. You have the right to a real car. If you cannot afford a real car, one will be provided to you by Instant Finance..") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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