davidian Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 just going trough an upgrade, partially cause i needed to, partially 'cause circumstance made me change EVERYTHING to do with brakes/steering and suspension as mk1/mk2 shit doesnt always interchange.. so i thought id share.... if youre upgrading mk1 shit, Id suggest you go out and get a complete mk2 front end to save you trouble... heres the diff between mk1/mk2 disks and callipers: as mk1 disks dont fit on to mk2 hubs, neither do mk1 hubs onto mk2 struts.. everything has to be swapped over, afaik: slight difference with the hub mounting holes... mk1-left, mk2-right ^^ fuck i cant astually remember if there was a diff there... but there was a difference i think on the hub itself, either the centre hole or the 4 mounting holes.. there was a diff fo sho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidian Posted May 5, 2007 Author Share Posted May 5, 2007 the disk shields need to be swapped as well as theyre not interchangeable... now callipers: mk1 vs mk2 type16 (bigger, better) the mk1s are mounted differently to the mk2 ones which bolt to the strut. mk1s are the dirty old ones on top, mk2 blinging on bottom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidian Posted May 5, 2007 Author Share Posted May 5, 2007 i used mk2 solid/calliper brake lines and they bolt straight up to both the TYPE16 and the flexi mk1 brake line. I understand this might not always be the case and people have to get new lines made up.. fuck knows. im now using pretty much all mk2 brakes bar the original solid brake line from booster to all corners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidian Posted May 5, 2007 Author Share Posted May 5, 2007 of course before i forget also need to swap to -mk2 struts (keep small mk1 top hats if you have them -mk2 control arms (the mk1s wont fit mk2 tie rods ) -mk2 steering gear (hence why you need complete mk2 front) ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidian Posted May 5, 2007 Author Share Posted May 5, 2007 finally, im going with (i think) FWD offset rims and need longer studs.. here are the numbers im using, if anyone else is doing the same... the shank (?) size is almost same as std. esky, obviously longer and modern metric thread. slightly bigger shank (is that wtf its called) on the fronts as theyve all been replaced at some stage and i need a veeery slightly thicker studs in the front, you can see stock numbers are 1 number apart... and standard wheel stud next to the new one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk1Mad Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 Man, thats some good info. Low'n'Slow is just about to do this conversion hopefully. Questions- Do you need to use the Mk2 Steering column or can you use the Mk1 one? What is the deal with the strut tops? Other than that, do all the bolt holes line up etc? Ive never done much with escorts so need what ever you can tell me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htwn-escort-boy Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 if you use mk2 struts you have to use the mk2 rack, its cause the tierods are different and they dnt fit, strut tops: can use the mk1's due to the shock insert been the same, some one correct me if im wrong?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk1Mad Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 If you use the Mk2 rack do you have to use the MK2 steering column? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htwn-escort-boy Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 nope mk1 coloum works, only difference is the tierod end, and no you cant just put the mk2 one on the mk1 rack due to the thread also been different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteretep Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 the mk2 is all metric and mk1 is all imperial(possibly not late model ones?), thats why you get the problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htwn-escort-boy Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 ohh that makes alot of sense, cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 Some of the mk1 discs were the same size as the mk2 ones from memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raizer Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 Some of the mk1 discs were the same size as the mk2 ones from memory.Yeap your right, and most MK1 calipers have basically the same pistons etc as MK2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Decided to drag this thread up as I want some info on mk1 struts, but my small question doesn't need a whole thread. I have drums all around and may in the future look at putting discs on the front if the drums don't cut it.... So will mk1 disc brake struts bolt in place of mk1 drum struts with no mods? If yes, anyone in chch have some struts/discs/calipers lying around they will sell for cheap? Don't need shocks. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raizer Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I have drums all around and may in the future look at putting discs on the front if the drums don't cut it.... They wont cut it. So will mk1 disc brake struts bolt in place of mk1 drum struts with no mods? Yes. Would pay to fit a master cyl from a disc brake car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteretep Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 do mk1's with discs always have the crappy calipers or do some have m16's? I would have thought that mk2 units would have been easier to find, still relatively easy to fit and in better condition age wise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raizer Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 do mk1's with discs always have the crappy calipers or do some have m16's?I would have thought that mk2 units would have been easier to find, still relatively easy to fit and in better condition age wise? Some have the imperial version of M16s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Reason I thought i'd go for mk1s is that everything else should bolt up fine? Mk2s being metric I heard you have to make up new brake hoses to go from metric to imperial, so would going for mk1 struts mean this cost would be avoided? Will look into the m16s you speak of and compare to the struts I have an eye on. Thanks anymore info appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raizer Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Reason I thought i'd go for mk1s is that everything else should bolt up fine?Mk2s being metric I heard you have to make up new brake hoses to go from metric to imperial, so would going for mk1 struts mean this cost would be avoided? Will look into the m16s you speak of and compare to the struts I have an eye on. Thanks anymore info appreciated M16 calipers are stock on MK2 Escorts, 3/4/5 Cortina, Capri's and some others. There worth changing a brake fitting etc for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sholdowa Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 If you're upgrading the front brakes, I'd go vented. I wouldn't bother going 4-pot (especially princess... they're too heavy!), but capri vents fit on, and it's simple to get a spacer kit for the m16 calipers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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