efp0wa Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 The old KP61 has no brake booster, there is one on trademe for sale http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... =420503910 Would this fit my KP61, without massive modifcations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoozin Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Do you want a KP booster? I have one if you like. $30 shipped, it's a bit scummy looking but a scuff back and a lick of paint it should be A-ok. It's just a booster, does not come with a brake master cylinder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efp0wa Posted November 8, 2011 Author Share Posted November 8, 2011 Cheers Snoozin. I think I'll grab the one from the guy in Nelson as I can pick it up and it has a master cylinder; but if that falls through I'll grab your one. Are they a direct fit to a Starlet that didn't originally have one? Do you think there is much benifit to installing one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoozin Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 To be honest I've never come across a KP with unboosted brakes - I'll go through my brochures and stuff later but I'm 99% sure they should all have come with boosted brakes. I've driven mine unboosted though and it's acceptable, just need more pedal pressure obviously. Booster is a bit nicer day to day though, for sure. What year is it? NZ new or import? Any pics of how it currently is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjrstar Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I'm a big fan of the master cylinder upgrade, have a think about finding a 15/16 or 1'' master, it'll give you a nice solid high pedal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efp0wa Posted November 8, 2011 Author Share Posted November 8, 2011 Odd how it doesn't have one isn't it. My last two starlets did. Its a 1983 Jap Import KP61. I'll get a pic in a min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efp0wa Posted November 8, 2011 Author Share Posted November 8, 2011 Ignore the dirty mess, has since been cleaned up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoozin Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 That's bizarre... doesn't actually look like a standard KP brake master in that either... the reservoirs are different, at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efp0wa Posted November 9, 2011 Author Share Posted November 9, 2011 Hrmmm, basically the issue that i'm having and I ask about adding a brake booster is that the brakes feel laggy. The guy who owned it before me said he bled the brakes twice and it still felt that way. It doesn't feel spongy, just need to put the foot down a bit further than would be expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatt20 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Hrmmm, basically the issue that i'm having and I ask about adding a brake booster is that the brakes feel laggy.The guy who owned it before me said he bled the brakes twice and it still felt that way. It doesn't feel spongy, just need to put the foot down a bit further than would be expected. yes starlets do come with non boosted brakes, iv owned two that did (out of 53 starlets iv owned mind you lol) just converted a customers starlet wagon from non boosted to boosted , factory starlet booster fits, bit of dicking around with pushrod length, the one that pokes out from the booster to back of master cyl is a little long/may of been incorrectly sdjusted in the past. works mint now and made a big difference. non boosted was shocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efp0wa Posted November 9, 2011 Author Share Posted November 9, 2011 Ok awesome but not. I will buy the brake booster for $40 and fit it. Will just have to find vacuum I suppose..drill and tap a fitting from inlet manifold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatt20 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 re; 'lag' have you adjusted rear brakes? will be a spare lug on your inlet manifold for vacuum, usually a small nut you can remove and screw in a booster fitting? iv yet to see one that hasnt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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