mjrstar Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Looking for someone who is up to speed to build me a decent cage for my starlet and supply all paperwork etc.. Has anyone here had dealings with someone they would reccomend? Cheers Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikuni Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Are you cashed up or would you be keen on saving a little bit of money? Also, how much of a hurry are you in and do you have room for a car to be worked on in your shed? Just asking because I'm doing a cage at the moment in a track car I'm building. I have a certified welder lined up, who has done cages before and who I trust (he makes transmission line towers, man cages from steel tube that hang from cranes, etc). I got a kit set cage from Racecraft Engineering for around $500 which is basic 6 point with base plates, you just cut and notch to fit, then weld. Additional bars like side intrusion, some diags will be purchased in additional to this, but this way you know all bends and overall profile of the cage is well done and it should pass homologation without any real issues. I've also looked into the homologation side of it with the paper work, drawings and photo's, it's all very simple and straight forward. I'd be keen to sit down and run through it all with you if you are worried about it - I was at first but having looked at it now I believe cage building is a little bit of a monopoly and a lot of scaremongering is done by the fabricators to ensure they retain this business. Perhaps years ago it was difficult to get a car through homologation but I don't think it is now. Anyway, let me know man, perhaps pm if you're keen, otherwise some of the guys who have had cages build locally will probably chime in shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjrstar Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 semi unkeen to have too much fxxk around factor, if I can get something reasonable for around 2k roll in roll out i'll be happy enough.. this fully welded deal could make life a bit difficult to run the bars close to the bodywork i suspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikuni Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 There's ways and means, generally holes are drilled through the floor to drop the main hoop and laterals enough to do a tidy weld 360 degrees, then the cage is lifted up into its permanent position and the floor plates are welded in to cover the holes. Plates are a requirement anyway, so theres no real downside to doing things this way, providing the shell allows you to do so. But yeah sweet, drive in, drive out with all paperwork is definitely a nice easy option and if you can score something decent for $2k, it might be worth while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjrstar Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 next question.. how does the paperwork side of things happen.. ie: do i need a MSNZ License to make it all happen? is this the correct sequence? Car Club Membership => Clubsport MSNZ License => Cage Homologation + Logbook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikuni Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Car Club Membership => Clubsport MSNZ License => Cage Homologation + Logbook. Thats the order I'm doing it in. When you get your MSNZ license you get the motorsport manual with all the rules in it, which you need to build the cage to, along with many other modifications for racing. To get this, you need a valid club membership with an affiliated club. Then you can either get a log book and send it away with your homologation papers, or send away both the homologation papers and the log book application form at the same time, which is what I intend on doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjrstar Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 Cool.. Sounds like i'll need to hit up Hamilton Car Club to get a membership... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikuni Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Yeah, or Fiat Car Club. Sounds weird as I don't drive a Fiat, but they seem to run the best events in the Waikato region of all the clubs, so might as well support them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjrstar Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 Fiat club looks to be a bit cheaper also.. My e-nets browsing has also turned up a mini club but no metion if it's msnz affiliated.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtdvl Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Auckland Uni Car Club is $10 a year and is a MSNZ clubby - i paid for 3 years... so cheap. You can still go enter all the other clubs events, just sometimes it's a little more expensive for non-club members... Fiat Car Club runs a nice winter tarmac series that you don't need a cage for just a clubman license. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjrstar Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 Fiat club seems like the go.. Although do you need to know someone who knows someone (ie do you have to be nominated by a current member?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikuni Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Fiat club seems like the go.. Although do you need to know someone who knows someone (ie do you have to be nominated by a current member?) Nah you should be alright to enter without being nominated. I did. But if you do need to I'm a member (non-active at the moment ) and I think Tom (Testament) is also a member there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjrstar Posted April 13, 2011 Author Share Posted April 13, 2011 Spoke to Sinco customs the other day, they are talking 1600+gst for a basic 6 point tig welded job which didn't seem too bad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikuni Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Spoke to Sinco customs the other day, they are talking 1600+gst for a basic 6 point tig welded job which didn't seem too bad... Please see pm as to why Sinco should be avoided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjrstar Posted April 13, 2011 Author Share Posted April 13, 2011 Thanks for the PM, I will continue to look around/chat to people... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldrx Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 I know Charlie Evans motorsport do them and have a good rep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinite Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 why should sinco be avoided? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjrstar Posted April 22, 2011 Author Share Posted April 22, 2011 ^^ I have on-forwarded the PM I got from Mikuni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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