scooters

wish I didn't come across this fred to be fair. 

just bought a 260 @brocky41 old / good car... man some of these things are bad news. 

nightmare material. 

Rover v8 thing ..... unsure. 

Richmond. 

the green 330 will hijack this thread pritty soon 

12 minutes ago, Seedy Al said:

Spamming this good but @scooters I might know where a set of triples for an L are but can't confirm anything at this point. Will ask next time I see the dude. 

yeah no worries. no rush 

It's kind of weird how it all behaves large injectors on small Pulse width will have mostly no effect as a lot of the time they will be spraying on the back of shut valves. 

Only way to nail it down is to get a wide band get the idle stable... you can pull full in out out with the VE table to suite.

however if you do it pre throttle you are just adding another phisical object for the fuel to get around and mess you up.

I tried years ago to tune some independent throttle bodies on a 4age. Could not do it with VE.. Had to speed density it. I think because the throttle open up and the 

air flow was really exponential. Another story meh . 

1 hour ago, RUNAMUCK said:

My mate Damon at rocky auto is a dellorto expert. I think he knows where to get new ones off the www. Italy maybe?

He said the new webers need the throttle butterfly screws loctiting in or else they fall out, and you have a bad time. 

yea it's going to be interesting to see what turns up. (end of the week) 

a few years ago these were worthless/non desirable. But I think most of them went by the way of rot and now they are still non desirable.. but getting 

less and less as we go. 

good grief.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/A-New-Lithium-War-Is-About-To-Begin.html

46 minutes ago, yetchh said:

Didn't the starion and cordial both use tbi?

before or after throttle plate? 

firing injectors into a hot port set up helps vaporize the fuel without question.

Firing A injector into a throttle plate is not ideal. Having said that....just make sure its sequential to get the best posible outcome. 

again you would never know the difference between batch and sequential injection  at 4500 rpm 

its just the low end and idle quality is better. 

Remember a common missoma is that sequential injection is tied to valve timing and fire when the valve is ope or about to open.

Lets say your injectors are at 85% duty way the fuck up in the load cells.. well a lot of that fuel will be sprayed while the valve is shut anyway. 

@fletch

2 minutes ago, Carsnz123 said:

Mate who was going to do the rust work moved workshops so didn't have any time to fix it. So not much has been done as of late. I need to decide the overall goal for the car because I want to keep working on my Chrysler. Crowns and Skyline are first on the list though. Too many cars. 

Oh yea your screwd poor Datsun.

Do you know where do the nice tripple side draft carbs for the l26 come from ? 

@Carsnz123

how far along are you ? 

i just bought this.... well pending payment and shiping.. you know the usual. 

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/nissan/auction-1740702048.htm

12 minutes ago, Firetruck said:

Setups like that often run two sets of injectors, or they simply don't give a shit about low rpm drivability so still not suited for a road car

fair call 

respect that. 

Been thinking.. 

You can do it pre throttle. 

I still think you will tear you hair out trying to tune it. 

like this but without the fire risk . 

@fletch  Best bet is after that throttle blade bud.

The fuel is just going to hit that blade at idle and cause you endless drama. 

although I can see what your trying to do (hide the injector) Most other set ups are after the throttle for good reason. 

Just now, scooters said:

it will still work.. But economy and idle/ cruise might not be as clean as you want. 

Id put them in the manifold behind the valve if at all possible. 

a lot of things at play other than throttle plate. 

injector spray pattern helps a lot with the low rpm stuff. Up top does not seam to make a difference even if your injectors look like water pistols. 

How far are the carbs from the head ? Less of a issue if it's a short runner. 

 

 

 

@fletch

it will still work.. But economy and idle/ cruise might not be as clean as you want. 

Id put them in the manifold behind the valve if at all possible. 

a lot of things at play other than throttle plate. 

injector spray pattern helps a lot with the low rpm stuff. Up top does not seam to make a difference even if your injectors look like water pistols. 

How far are the carbs from the head ? Less of a issue if it's a short runner. 

SP every day. 

I have snap on but to be honest the sP has a very good flank drive

and leaves america for dead. 

thats a nice bit of kit. Love to see the thing up close. 

Is it a aero one or is that how they all looked back in the day ? 

@Nominal

love a fat boy.. deffs a mid school bike.. 

The bike I use to pine over in my youth. 

28 minutes ago, S124AB said:

Sold for equivalent of $8250 NZD landed in NZ incl GST.

So I suspect someone wants to restore it.

What were you going to pay? 

OK. Small setback today. After a battle to get the rims on i'm still running dramas. At full lock only I'm getting slight inner rim scrapping. It's still hitting on the bottom ball joint nut even though the ball joint stud is now cut flush with the bottom of the nut. It really shows these rims were never meant to be for a 1302 dub.

So after a bit of a look we have the rim scraping and the nut thats causing the drama. 

Off the top of my head there are a few different things I can do.

1. reduce the wheel lock with the steering stop bolts. 

2. adjust the front wheel bearings. I have very slight play but I kind of don't mind them being a fraction on the loose side but. 

3. I'm still thinking about this one..... spin the ball joint nut down about 3mm... To increase the clearance between rim and nut and give me back 2 threads of ball joint that I should have hanging out the bottom of the ball joint nut. Would take it from 11 mm to 8mm thickness. (M 12 metric fine  1.5 thread pitch) 

one last push to get these rims working... 90% there. The other thing is spacers or remove some material off the rims... Both are not so flash ideas. 

@Bistro

 cool... that is a great little write up. I still wonder about it really is. 

He said there wad 93 people watching it online trade me and he just went fuck it and hit buy now. 

Its the only truck I like tbh. The little mail box screen must be a pig but it looks the business.