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Only had a few hours in the shed today so spritzed the final coats on the carby hat. I should be able to present it to you in glorious technicolour tomorrow.

In other news I've been fine tuning the Astra pump bracket. It had a little angled section that was quite close to the engine and didn't seem to be serving any purpose.

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So, I pulled a bit of a van Gogh move and the little ear is no more. Have replaced it with a straight piece since taking this photo:

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I then tackled a bit of CAD and I now have this pattern for the bracket that will bolt up to the rear wall of the engine box:

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I've run out of welding wire and I don't have a big enough piece of steel plate to create my bracket, so it's off to town I go tomorrow for some extra supplies.

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Poked some more holes that allowed me to bolt the original Astra mounting bracket to my newly fabricated bracket. Took a few goes before I managed to get everything in place with just a smidge of clearance all around.

Closed the engine lid and the top of the reservoir just clears.

Sheesh, she's a tight one as the bishop said to the actress.

Tomorrow I'll pull the brackets out for a bit of beautification.

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Gave my rough looking Astra pump base bracket a bit of shaping followed by a light spanking with a flapper disc and lastly a little spritz of satin black.

Will let it dry overnight and I can then slap it all back together tomorrow.

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A few weeks back I was swapping a few yarns with Sandy who until recently headed up the UK based Thames 400E Owner's Club. Somehow, we got onto the subject of engine cooling and in passing Sandy mentioned a U shaped lower air deflector plate that was fitted from factory to all of the 400Es with the flat upper deflector plate only being fitted to vans exported to hotter climates. He immediately had my attention as my van has only ever sported the upper deflector plate.

Sandy shared this image with me:

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Back in the day the UK boys used to run a standard Thames radiator to cool their mid mounted V8 conversions with many of them running no helper fan at all and never experienced cooling issues. Granted the UK is a lot cooler than Straya, but I've noticed that my van runs a little warmer than I was expecting and I'm thinking that its likely due to the missing air deflector.

So while I'm in a bit of a holding pattern while the paint on my Astra pump brackets dries, I figured I'd make a start on my air deflector.

Started off with some rough looking CAD work:

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CAD is a bit floppy, so the plan for tomorrow is to create a copy in plywood as a rigid mock-up.

Thanks for looking.

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I'm back in a holding pattern while I wait for the hydraulic man to slot me in for my new power steering hose, so I thought I'd make a start on the next item on the list namely the fitting of extra gauges.

My current thinking is to fit four extra 2 inch gauges if I can. These being a water temp gauge, a voltmeter, an oil pressure gauge and lastly a rev counter.

Looking at what other Thames owners have done, there are a few options.

This image shows an instrument cluster that has been attached to the factory option heater box:

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Whilst I currently don't have a heater box one of my future plans is to fabricate a similar looking box to house my a/c evaporator, so fitting a gauge pod like this could be an option, but in my case I now have the floor mounted gearshift which would clash with this. So, for this reason I've excluded this as an option.

The next option is quite a popular one and involves replacing the open glove box with a flat panel that allows for the fitting of extra gauges, switches and the like. Just like so:

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I'm currently leaning towards this setup. The only thing that I don't like about it is that it looks homemade.

I'd prefer something that looks like it could have been a factory option.

I then remembered that the old Cortina MK1 GTs had a nice setup, that looked like so:

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It just so happens that my mate Grant has a couple of Cortinas and he had a spare GT cluster that he lent me.

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However, on closer inspection the GT gauge pod has an angle built into it which wouldn't suit a flat panel.

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There is no way that I was going to hack up a rare GT cluster just to make it fit, so I came up with a plan B which involves using 4 cheap plastic gauge pods that I will poke through a flat mounting panel to create a similar look to the GT cluster.

eBay delivered up 4 of these beauties earlier in the week, so it's time for me to make a start.

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Continued working on my gauge cluster setup.

The outer diameter of the plastic gauge pod is 60mm and it just so happens that I have a 60mm hole saw left over from our house reno.

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Played around with a few offcuts. First up was a bit of 3mm aluminium plate, but the poor old hole saw took a bit of strain, so I'm thinking of using something softer.

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Next up was an old scrap of plywood. Much easier to cut, but I'm not so keen on the woodgrain. Cut one anyway and set it up with the pod to get the feel.

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So, ignoring the woodgrain issue for the moment, I focused on the rest of the look.

The hole saw leaves a slight gap which will need filling. Not that easy to achieve when the distance between gauge pods will be around 10mm. But I'm thinking that if I was to find a bit of PVC pipe that the gauge pod could slip into, then I'd be able to create some slip rings that I could push over the pods from the front. This would fill up the gap and also if I made the slip rings long enough, they would give the gauge the "countersunk" look that I am aiming for ala the Cortina GT gauge panel. I'll scratch around the Bunnings plumbing aisle to see what I can find next time we are in town.

In terms of dealing with the woodgrain I'm thinking that a piece of veneered ply might do the trick.

I'll rummage through my wood pile tomorrow to see what I can find.

 

  

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I'm hopping about between jobs at the moment.

The paint was dry on my new air duct so I quickly fitted that with some fresh stainless nuts and bolts.

Next small job was to figure out a way of mounting my "yet to be fabricated" gauge panel in place.

Here is a close up of the opening that the panel will sit in.

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The easiest thing in the world would be to drill a few holes in the dash and chuck some self-tappers in, but my OCD couldn't cope with that, so I've come up with an alternate plan that involves these two countersunk headed bolts:

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I mixed up a bit of JB Weld and smeared it all over the head of each bolt, then used a small clamp to fix them to the back of the metal dash until the glue goes off.

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I'll then make the inner panel longer than the opening with holes drilled to pick up the bolt positions. Hopefully they will be strong enough to hold the panel in place.

I'll then cut a second panel in the shape of the actual opening which I will bond to the inner panel thus bringing the actual face panel in line with the rest of the dashboard.

It looks okay in my head at the moment, so hopefully it will turn out just as good when I've actually made it.

 

 

 

 

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