EvoBilly Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 im sure ive seen this topic here but when i need it i can't find it so heres my problem i just did a 1300ks road trip to the north island for nats car made it there and back with a few minor issues including starting to over heat on the way home so have put new thermostat in and new waterpump still getting hot thinking maybe headgaskit then it got worse i went to start it to make sure the water was toped up fully and give it a run to see if its losing water as oil is still clear (not creamy) and couldn't see any major bubbles well running in water turned key fired up (from cold hadn't been running today) and as i don't have my choke hooked up yet did its usually coof coof splutter come right then stalled turned the key again and it just winds over with no sign of life at all so have checked for spark has spark at coil and at plugs then checked for fuel and its pumping fuel in at carb engine turns over smooth and everything seems to be moving normal hope to borrow compression tester see what i get back does anyone have any other ideas on what could have happend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seedy Al Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 hmmm... odd yeah do compression test. Have you also pulled th plugs out of your car and checked the condition on those? And maybe just double check points gap also. Someitmes spark plugs like to show that they are firing ok, until the put under compression and then they no, Nup, fuck you, i'm not firing! However for all 4 of them to do it maybe not. Sure its not flooded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoBilly Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 I pulled the plugs out and going buy the online photo guide there all normal condition then i sat them on the tappet over pluged in and wound it ova could smell fuel coming out holes and could see spark on all 4 never had flooding issues before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benno Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Have you checked the timing? I had issues at one stage, plugs were sparking, engine was turning over, there was fuel at the plugs and it would not start. Replaced the points and condenser and it started first pop. Also check that the distributor has not come loose and moved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoBilly Posted April 26, 2012 Author Share Posted April 26, 2012 engine still not going pulled head off to replace head gaskit the one that was on there looked like it was fine nothing i could see blown anywere checked cam timeing thats still right checked dizzy timeing thats still right has new points, condenser, dizzy cap, ht lead, all checked and set right havn't finished putting bak it together yet before pulling head off checked rockers there were a little out but not enough to stop it running basicly being a k mota if its got fuel some sort of spark at the right time and compression it should attempt to run but this isn't at all thinking maybe spark is to weak running out of ideas really who knows maybe once its back together it will just go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKtrips Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Did you clean the points before installing them - they have an anti corrosion coating on them that will make the car run like shit if you don't take it off... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoBilly Posted April 26, 2012 Author Share Posted April 26, 2012 yeah i got my partners old man who is a mech to put them in and set them right so im guessing he did it right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKtrips Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Checked compressions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoBilly Posted April 26, 2012 Author Share Posted April 26, 2012 common sence would say i would have but got sick of waiting for tester and hav limited time to work on it at the mo thought doing the head gaskit might fix issues or that once head off might see the problem so pulled it off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKtrips Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 You need spark, fuel, compression and all of it coming together at the right time... So you have spark when cranking? Unless the cam has been out that won't be a problem. Your dadinlaw should have set the spark timing correctly. Also tip a splash of fuel down the carb when you crank it and see if it helps (this will elimnate fuel as a factor if it makes no difference) Checking compression is next.. Do a compression test and set the tappets.. Next thing is the ballast bypass - is it wired correctly and do you have the correct coil fitted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoBilly Posted April 26, 2012 Author Share Posted April 26, 2012 running a GT40 non ballast coil i sprayed start ya barstard down the carb and still nothing no attempt to fire and i tested the spark buy pulling the plugs out pluging them in and sitting them on tappet cover and wound it ova the condenser and points were put on before going to nats could have burnt condenser out i guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKtrips Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Don't these cars run a ballasted ignition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoBilly Posted April 26, 2012 Author Share Posted April 26, 2012 factory yes but i neva had the set up or the wires for it and i had a new gt40 non ballast in shed so wired that in and it ran started mint made it to nats and back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKtrips Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 OK you may need to check if you are getting 6V or 12V to the points The points may be burning out if you are runing 12V to them all the time.. Also are you using a GT40T? (transistor) or the normal GT40 coil.. The GT40T is very particular about what ignition systems they run with and I've found they run like shit with some old types of ignition and have had to change back to a GT40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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