shizzl Posted December 8, 2008 Author Share Posted December 8, 2008 real weak looking spark ae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKAZ Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Hmmm got a spare module Id try that. Spark should be bright and clear with an XD dizzy. They can collapse quite easy, particularly if second hand. I put a brand new one in mine the third time and gave me no further issues..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizzl Posted December 8, 2008 Author Share Posted December 8, 2008 itll spark once every 2 or 3 cranks...while its popping back through the carby.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizzl Posted December 8, 2008 Author Share Posted December 8, 2008 the problem is trying to find one... surely if the dizzy is fukt then itll have shaft play and things wouldnt it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKAZ Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 they rebush easy. Any good Bosch Service Agent should have them in stock.....That and the module is about all that goes wrong in them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizzl Posted December 8, 2008 Author Share Posted December 8, 2008 do you know if the xf 3 pin dizzy can be used? weve got the west coast stockcar champs this saturday,would like to get out and hit somethinng... http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 798643.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKAZ Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Personally never used an XF dizzy in any of our cars, but know they are widely used cos theyre easier to find. I dont know what is needed/involved with using one of them though......Imagine you would need an external box from an XF and rewire.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizzl Posted December 8, 2008 Author Share Posted December 8, 2008 now that i think about the last time it got used was when the radiator exploded its guts all over the place,so likely that it got soaked? the module is only covered by a half arsed attempt at a cover... ie the stock little metal cover,definately not water tight... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKAZ Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Highly possible. Get out the 5.56 CRC boe..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizzl Posted December 8, 2008 Author Share Posted December 8, 2008 think i might just pull the dizzy out and beat it with a hammer.. or tip it up too see if anything falls out surely the module is a self insulated unit?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKAZ Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 only with a silicone grease...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizzl Posted December 8, 2008 Author Share Posted December 8, 2008 well its been about 5 weeks since it was last run.... ill get out the crc and go nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizzl Posted December 8, 2008 Author Share Posted December 8, 2008 looking into the shaft of the rotor theres a metal strip running up the back of it,but theres no visible was for the power to transfer to the metal strip on the top of the rotor.... make sense? something missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKAZ Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 the rotor button in the cap isnt jammed up into the cap solid????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizzl Posted December 8, 2008 Author Share Posted December 8, 2008 nah the button moves freely.. its the rotor im all ????? about... oh wait,brain malfunction.....i see now... anywho heres a pic of the rotor for shits n giggles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKAZ Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Random ok but this is what happens inside a falcon dizzy when you get hit. The dizzys driven off the crank. When you get the shunt (or doing the shunt) the inertia moved the crankshaft in the block microscopically. Because the dizzy is bolted to the block it cannot move, so the gear on the dizzy travels "up" the teeth on the gear, causing it to contact with the top of the cap. This can be that hard that it will actually break the cap on suicide hits..... Can be reduced by removing the bottom geat and shimming it with copper/brass washers so it has very little play.. check that module aint wet.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizzl Posted December 9, 2008 Author Share Posted December 9, 2008 so,after taking the dizzy to pieces,and a whole can of crc and a can of valvoline something,abit of a shuffle with plugs,and fiddle with some wires,more crc,lots of colourful language,hammer holes in walls,and a recharge of the battery,its finally fukn started.... on my lunch break(work is 2min away) i poured on the crc.. let it dry a bit.... went to go back to work and just thought id give it one more go.. started cranking without the backfiring and it tried to burst into life,so i pumped some gas into the carby,normal start procedure,and funny enough she fired up...tell ya what,a falcon 4l race motor in a closed garage will make even the holden fans gets a hard on... totally stoked.. now im going to take the box out and check the clutch and realign it,im sure its out of alignment and stopping the throw out bearing to work properly,or at all.... thanks MACKAZ for ya help.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sholdowa Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 now im going to take the box out and check the clutch and realign it,im sure its out of alignment and stopping the throw out bearing to work properly,or at all.... Won't it align itself when you press the pedal? As long as the bearing ( what do you call it! ) in the flywheel is still there, then the pms is held true, and the friction plate will centre itself when the pedal's depressed. Any other problems are usually crud on the shaft... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizzl Posted December 9, 2008 Author Share Posted December 9, 2008 ive got a hydraulic release bearing so if the plate is out abit the "bearing" will cock off to the side a fraction and wont allow it to work properly.. plus i wanna check the plate anyway.. but its a real c---t to get into gear on a standstall,but from a rolling start its fine,and once its in gear you can sit there with the clutch engaged fine but its labouring a bit... just wanna get it all buttoned down for the champs this weekend.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKAZ Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Did you buy some spare rotors??????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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