Stacov Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Ok u pinto heads i need to change the cambelt what im wondering is do i have to take off the crack pulley just to get the belt off? as theres not much room down there. also whats the easiest way to take it off without losing the timing if possiable. any help/tips would be great Only reason im changing belts is the one thats on there is crap it like melts and moves on on the pulleys and ive tryed heaps of tension settings but same thing. Anyways the belt is stuffed and i need this one on and working probably so i can start doing the rest of the car so i can get it on the road. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 ...yep. definately wanna change the belt before it snaps and totals your motor. I've always replaced mine when the engines out... but you don't have to take the crank pulley off. I always cut my belts off.. You'll have to do the timing anyway man. Mark everything like the dizzy and the cam so you can set it all back up all the same. Undo the belt tensioner and cut the belt off. Yeah there's not much room down the bottom but you can slot on the new belt and pull it over the cam sproket and release the tensioner. Auto manual might be a good idea if you're doing a cambelt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted May 23, 2005 Author Share Posted May 23, 2005 alright thanks RT was hoping u would reply cheers man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrome_GT Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 I've heard that the piston doesn't reach the valves on a standard pinto if the belt snaps? Anyways, you'll need to do the timing. Do as RT says and mark everything. One method I'd heard of changing the belt without loosing timeing was to slice the belt in half all the way around. Then jam new one on next to it and cut the rest of the first belt off. I tried that and it was a pain in the arse so don't bother. Mark, remove, & retime. I don't remember removing the pully when i did myne but it was a while ago. I don't have my belt cover fitted so it was alot less hassle. Use a Haynes manual if you haven't done it before. Public libraries always have Cortina books on shelf. Does anyone else run their pintos without the timing belt cover? Has anyone ever actually heard of this causing a problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 It's not a problem. Most escort 2L's run with out em as hey don't have the room. But I run one now.. didn't use to. But it looks good chromed out and I don't wanna risk a very expensive engine on not running a cover.. Not that there's much chance but if something happened to fly through my bonnet vent and wedge it self in the cambelt and it snaps and fucks my engine.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted May 23, 2005 Author Share Posted May 23, 2005 another question on the crank pully where the alternator belt goes behind it is another pully or spacer not sure what its called then its the crank pully where the belt goes. OK my problem is u only have a very very very small gap to get the belt in as theres like bracket or protective barrier thingly around where the belt goes. sorry i dont know the name hopefully someone will know what im talking about. I just cant get the belt thru that small gap and i dont really wanta force and cause damage to the belt. So any tips? or anything i should take off down there to make my job easier? If ya dont know what im talking about ill take a pic of it cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 oh right yeah... haha you don't have to take off the pulley to get the belt off but you do have to take it off to get the new one on! so yeah you might as well remove the crank pulley and that big washer thingy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted May 24, 2005 Author Share Posted May 24, 2005 hahahaha ok now we getting somewhere so whats the easiest way of taking it off? cheers man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 ok, ahem.. release the tensioner, remove the belt off the cam pulley and wrap it around the water pump so that it locks onto itself. This will stop the engine from just turning over as you wrench loose the crank pulley. So undo the crank pulley and remove it along with that big washer thingy. Then slide new one on and replace crank pulley and washer and release tensioner. Do timing. Watch out for Seirra cambelts and Cortina cambelts have 3 teeth different between em... don't know why ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted May 24, 2005 Author Share Posted May 24, 2005 alright, what about "if" ive already cut off the old cambelt any other ways to hold the crank while u remove the pulley ? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 Yep wrap it around the water pump and tie your best boyscout knot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted May 24, 2005 Author Share Posted May 24, 2005 haha alright thanks RT you've been great help. I guess ill do it on the weekend when im not working. Ill let ya know how i get on thanks man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted May 28, 2005 Author Share Posted May 28, 2005 ok got the bolt out of the pulley but cant get the pulley off do i need a pulley key or something to get it off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 ..hmm no.. I don't have a pulley remover. I use a block of wood and a hammer and a crowbar sometimes. But once again, I've always done it with the engine out of the car... If you know somebody with a pulley removal tool then that would certainly help. Otherwise perhaps some gentle persuasion with a crowbar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted May 29, 2005 Author Share Posted May 29, 2005 Yeah i was abit worried forcing it off so i thought i better ask here first thanks again RT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted June 2, 2005 Author Share Posted June 2, 2005 Alright, finally had some free time been working nightshift to 4am in the morning not fun anyways. Got the pulley off was pretty easy with the crowbar like 30 seconds hehe I put the new cambelt on. Im hoping its on correctly set pistons 1 & 4 at the top well the crank never move so they were already there so didnt really have to touch that. redid the cam timing lined it all up with its marks still gotta do the dizzy. ran outta time today so will do that tomorrow and check everything again to be sure!! Just one thing im wondering what sort of damage will be caused if my timing is really fucked? will i beable to tell as soon as i fire her up? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaMpylobacter Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 it'll eitehr not run, or it'll run like arse might bend some valves or something. will be sweet as long as you didnt shift it, a tiny bit to line them up is fine, just not heaps, plus they're lined up so it'll be mint... I'm rambling, somebody shut me up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted June 2, 2005 Author Share Posted June 2, 2005 Yeah barely even touched the crank only move a tiny bit when i unbolted the pully bolt but not enough to move the pistons. So yeah im sure its right. Would suck if it wasnt and broke some vavles but oh well only way to learn aye? No good getting other people to do ur engine work because u will never learn. Ive always got another 3 pinto's here but not modded like this one but yeah i think ur right about if its way out it wont start or will have trouble starting anyways cheers for ur input every little bit helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esky boi Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Just double check that it is at TDC then bro. Make sure no.1 piston is still at the top and then line up the marks on the pulley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted June 2, 2005 Author Share Posted June 2, 2005 Just double check that it is at TDC then bro. Make sure no.1 piston is still at the top and then line up the marks on the pulley Yup!! #1 and #4 are at the top that was the first thing i checked took sparkplugs out and put my finger in and already lined up the cam just the dizzy now but i barely move that so might be ok how it is! hope tomorrow is nice and sunny and everything goes to plan alittle offtopic i should make another thread. but may aswell ask in here lol Rear brakes on a serria will they bolt straight upto the escort diff? got a serria stationwagon that im going to strip for the engine/5speed and im hoping the rear brakes will fit the escort as they are bigger. Anyone know ? cheers guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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