Terminal220

Tip of the cap to you sir!

Great news! The center console surround has been painted to match (although it looks weird in the pic) and has been installed with a new outer boot ex ozzy. I sourced the sheet metal blanking plate that rivets to the trans tunnel and an inner boot from my commy supplier in Nelson. The manual conversion is now 100% complete and looking stock as...................... Its the small things in life!

Alright.....been a while between drinks. Have installed a 6cyl 5 speed now. Shifter is far more central and my speedo isuue has gone...... well mostly, 95Kph indicated is 100kph...so close enough. Running the 5 speed with my 3.08 Trimatic diff has caused it to be a bit longer than what would have been ideal. She is still sweet and now when driving at 100Kph im sitting on 2000rpm. I think due to all the work thats been done to the motor she is still plenty torqey and happly skids to second. As it turns out the 202 is no ecco motor so ill take the cruising speed savings. Just getting the OE center console sprayed to match my interor and she will be ball standard. Pics to come. Also I feel she needs to be a tadd lower......just when i thought I was almost finished.

Yeah I chucked an electronic disy on mine since i got tired of setting points. Havent looked back. Might have a second one in my spares box...... will have a look if you want. You can generally pick one up for a $100-150. Just make sure the vac advance isnt poked. Thats another $70? to get rebuilt.

Nice Mayte, Never been interested in bugs........till now. Looks sweet!

Well the old salt (OS) I brought my 6 cyl running gear raced VK's and swears by them. He thought it was more like 5lbs but wasnt too sure as he has been out of the game a wee while.....he remembered they rev alot harder. Removing the fan would have helped too. The OS also rekons that you can get up to 8hp by switching to electic fans. Sounds like a bit of a fishing story as that would be the easiest 8hp gain on the planet! I am so glad i pulled that trimatic out though. The car is far more responsive and just fun to drive. Its acctually like a new car. Just gotta make sure I dont crash it now lol!

Yeah, I had another look at it today and my guess is I have the wrong speedo gear. Unsure what color to put in the borgy though, There are red, yellow, black etc on trademe......just dont know what one.. Lil more diggin will do the trick.

Lil update on my starfire flywheel findings. An old salt told me to run a starfire flywheel on the borg warner regardless if I end up running a 6 or 4 cyl box......and tbh is the only one i had. I didnt end up weighing it but the Commy is running bloody sweet with it in. She is reving nicely to 5500rpm at the moe but the power starts dropping off around 4500. She is still pulling but not as hard. She didnt realy like 4k with the trimatic in so its a massive increase. Also im rolling 100kms in with with 2200rpm in fith gear. Win! So my advise to anyone would be to roll a starfire flywheel if you can.

Heya mate, Lil update on my starfire flywheel findings. I didnt end up weighing it but the Commy is running bloody sweet with it in. She is reving nicely to 5500rpm at the moe but the power starts dropping off around 4500. She is still pulling but not as hard. She didnt realy like 4k with the trimatic in so its a massive increase. Also im rolling 100kms in fith with 2200rpm. So my advise would be to roll a starfire flywheel if you can. Good luck on your project

She is driving better than ever! Took her to work today and when I got home I had to tweak the clutch cable setting and the accelerator cable and holly shitballs she is soooo much gruntyer. Doing 2100Rpm at 100Kms......so have almost reduced my cruising rpm by 1000! Box is shifting nicely and the fan is working like a boss. All in all a win. A few things that still require attention: 1. The center console and trans tunnle. I have a mate making me up a sheet plate to cover the huge hole the auto shifter has left and then need to square away the cosmetics. 2. The speedo is reading 80Kph when I am doing 100. I still have the starfire speedo in the dash but didnt expect that to be a problem. Do you think maybe the guy gave me the wrong speedo gear? Or is the speedo its self the issue? I would prefer not to put the 6 cycl one in from my old donor car as it has 250,000+kms on the odo and my starfire one has 116,000. Bit of background on the speedo. The gear the guy gave me was the same as my trimatic one. My cars speedo cables end to drive the gear was too small. Seeing as though both gears were yellow and had the same diameter and teeth and they would bind and rotate togeter, I just left the trimatic one in. Im pretty sure I still have a 6 cycl speedo cable lying around so I could run it to the gear the guy game me......but dont think there will be a differance. Am I missing somthing? Any sugestions on the speedo issue would be greatly recieved. I am yet to start researching it so maybe its an easy fix. But after that....boom, think I might be done.

Here is the box from the fan controll unit. I opted for an adjustable one due to advise from people that know more about it I and just so I can get the old girl running at her fav temp. Wiring it was very easy. Consisted of +/-, acc's, the temp sensor that comes with it, the fan and the overide wiring. The override is optional but I was keen to have a back up option. Everything you need inc terminal connections come in the box. I have thrown out my fan box inc specs...... but I got all this stuff from proparts at the manfield swap meet a couple of weeks back. It is a 16" fan, is very quite and grunty. The guy said people fit them to V8's with no drama so I should be fine. I think the controller was $90 and the fan $70?.... the oldscool guys got me pretty drunk after the swap meet with a drinking game that I was terrible at......so deets are a lil scarce around swap meet time

More progress........but not finished So I took friday off and i dropped the Trans and engine oil as well as the radiator fluid. I removed my hoops, drive shafts radiator, center console, etc. I Installed a choke cable and wired my fan over ride wiring. note choke female left of steering wheel location. Fan: I had an old A/C switch that fitted perfectly next to my rear window de mister and wiper timer buttons....See pic. Looks stock as ... just like I have aircon......but i dont. Anyway, wiring the fan was a piece of cake. I had an old thermostat cover with a threaded hole at the top, so I installed the temp sensor for the adjustable fan controll unit in there after color matching it to my engine. I took a wee short cut when I got to my local radiator guy to pressure test my new (been up in the roof for two years after coming free with my car) manual radiator. He said for $70 he will pressure test, turbo flush, paint and fit my fan. I just got him to do it as it was going to save me time and i thought it a good price. The fan blows hard and is very quite. Im stoked with how much better it looks under the bonnet withouth the Clutch fan and the shroud. Will see if I get any extra go out of her monday or tuesday. /url] Manual conversion: I opted to remove the trans with the engine still in. Mainly because i was told it will be quicker but also because I havnet done it before and wanted to see for myself. Turns out it was, everything was running sweet as untill I had to remove the pedalbox. If i was to do it again (and for VKzac's sanity) remove your steering coloum before you try to remove the pedalbox from satan inc. Wasted a good hour before removing the steering coloum and 45mins after that we had it out and the new one in after removing the blank on my firewall for the clutch cable. The manual went in very easily. We used an old tailshaft as an aligning tool and she went straight in. Set the clutch cable and had everything mounted within an hour. Again for Zac....I had to join the two purple wires from the old auto shifter. These are the inhibiter cables that allow you to only start the car in Park or Neutral. So by shorting/joining them, the car will always think it is in P or N and will start up. I also had to extend the reverse light cables so they would reach the switch down on my new box. I then ran into trouble when I found out the hard way that VK tailshafts are too short for a VH. This being due to the different mounts onto the diff. The VK front driveshaft fits perfectly allowing me to use the OE mounts for the constant veloicty/hanger bearing. BUT....the bearing is a different diameter so i couldnt just roll my old VH one and the VK one was too short. I have dropped both rear drive shafts off to the engineer to put the VK hanger bearing flange onto my VH shaft. I couldnt just swap the hanger bearings either as they have diffent splines on them. They have said it will be ready monday and then all i have to do is fit the shafts, fill the gearbox with AFT(apprently), re fit my hoops, re fit the handbrake cable and go for a burn. Since my box is from a starfire, the shifter sits further aft (knew this was going to happen but not to what degree). It fits inside the center console (only just) but dosent contact the when in the in 2nd or 4th. Will jimmy somthing up for that in the comming weeks. I also wrapped the headders as the VHT paint, even though I took it to work and cooked it in a giant oven to the instructions on the can....had adopted a white flakey dog turd like appearance. Re did a few gaskets that needed doing, fitted the new choke cable to the holley and generally tidied up the wiring. All done by saturday before dinner. Boom! Will put up more once she is driving.

I got stung for $560. I was just gunna sell it and not worry about the 5speed so I got it certed. Bugger really, but ill put in the borgy and leave it uncertified untill I know if I can roll the supra box. At least I wont have to pull the engine out to swap the manual boxes over and the pedal box etc will already be installed.

Just got off the phone to the VLLTA and yup...as i thought, Its all in the pedal box. So going auto to manual will need modification or replacement of the pedal pedal box = Pay up (even if you fit an OE pedalbox) If your upgrading a manual ie 4 to 5 speed etc and you dont have to modify stuff previous stated ie tunnel, xmember etc = you are good as gold. I wont be recerting my beast untill the supra box is in then.

LVVTA have a power outtage today and no one is there apart from the office lady apprently. Ill give em a bell tomorrow. Looking at it....an Auto to manual conversion will require one but eg a 4 speed to a 5 speed wont unless you modify xmembers, tunnle etc. Both blurbs that seem to contridict each other still both say if you modify your pedal box then show them the money!!!! TBH i wonder if the wof place would even notice?

Hmm....this is interesting. And yup it directtly contridicts its self. Might be worth a call as I assumed I would be up for another cert. dum dum duuuum! To the phone!

Heya VKzac, First up welcome and fine choice in motor vechile! In a moment of weakness I was gunna sell my VH but I have seen the light and am going to keep her as well as continue to improve her. You may be aware that I am about to plop a Borgy 5 speed in mine and convert it to electric fans......I will add a little more detail and pics to my build thread than I would have if you like as it may be of interest or benfit to you. I may have got my hands on a supra five speed complete with Master, driveshafts, adapters etc that is currently bolted up to a 186. If this deal works out I will pull the borgy back out and may be able to help you if you are in the market for one and/or yolks etc. With regards to flywheels, I have been told by an old salt who used to race his VK (the guy i got my pedalbox, clutch cable and driveshafts from) that if you can, run a starfire flywheel. Apprently they are much lighter, bolt straight in and make a pretty descent impact. So thats what I am doing, if I had some bathroom scales I would go and weigh my one to see the exact figures..... maybe ill take it to a mates place. Last thing and anyone correct me if I am wrong, but I believe you will still "legally" be required to get it certified if you change the transmition from auto to manual. You stated further up the thread that one of the reasons for staying with the borgy was because its legal and wont require a cert. Might want to double check that as I would hate for you to get a nasty suprise down the track. Im putting one in because i am a lil lazy, dont have heaps of money to throw at it and have also heard some good feedback on the boxes and am hoping that some of the horror stories are from abused and poorly maintained ones....... Guess we will find out!

Next weekend the lazy Trimatic is comming out .....along with the engine and radiator. I intend on installing this stuff The five speed has had a recon with new seals, thrust bearing and the left hand thread bolt near the back. A suitable drive shaft from a VK that has been ballanced and will mate up with the five speed. VK pedalbox and clutch cable. Will also remove the clutch fan and run an eletrical one with an adjustable fan controller i picked up at the swapmeet. Skids on sunday all going well

Been a while between drinks, I am on a course atm and the commy progress has slowed. Had it up on trademe and got mucked around by two buyers so now i am thinking of keeping her and progressing with the project. She now has a cert and I have been using it as my daily for the past 3 to 4 months. Running sweet......has 1000hp in the wet! Have almost all the parts I need for the manual conversion. I have a 5 speed Borg Warner, shifter, flywheel, old clutch,(may bite the bullet and buy a new one), a clutch cable, pedal box, speedo drive gear and a front driveshaft yolk. Am i missing anythig? I know I still need a boot for the shifter but that is a nice to have atm. Will get the box droped off by Leebo at the swapmeet (bloody Legend!). Then ill drop it off at a shop to get a once over as I dont no much about boxes. The motor will come out again for the manual conversion....so will toss the fan in the bin and go electric at the same time.

I have an alloy time gear from a blue 202. wonder if they are different? I have never looked into it. If you want it, its yours....just pay postage

Hell yeah, I live in feilding but would be keen to meet up in palmy for a convoy cruise back to drovers! Sounds like you have been putting in the yaka for a wee while though Sparkle, so i'm not advocating to undo all your hard work. Could be a good plan B if Burger Fuel dont want to play the game though.

Turbo starfire!......this could be amazing. I pulled one out of my car too. ........ I miss her. But doing a hundee up a hill is cool too. Good luck with your project. Oh, and I might have some spare bits an bobs for one if you need em too.

Cheers mate, Looking at other projects on this site, mine was pretty small. But still stoked with the final product. I can see me keeping her long term now.

Progress! Hoops are in, All guages inc SL/E tacho are now functioning properly and the interior is all done including car audio. Just running an amplified four speaker gedup at the moe. Almost finished my PYE stereo buetooth project. The only way i could figure out to turn the bluetooth on and off is by inserting and ejecting the tape. It took me about an hour to find an old tape but hit the jackpot and found GnR appetite for destruction in an old box o crap to test it. works mint. Just trying to get other buttons to accept and reject calls when running hands free atm. I could go and get a cert now if I wanted........ but brought a Borg-Warrner 5 speed with shifter and flywheel. Still need to track down a pedal box, clutch cable and speedo gear to make it happen. But thought I may as well sort it before cert..... so close to being finished! The car has been running mint, have put 1000Kms on it since the new motor has been put in. So far........so good. Will put up interior pics as soon as I can.

Looks like a good turnout. My car is almost done but is drivable so ill be there for the next one.