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Thousand Dollar Supercar's 1988 Jaguar XJ-S 3.6


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So you're probably wondering why I haven't updated this thread in 1.5 years.

It's because the Jaguar bit me. :(

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I was driving home in about November 2020 and the engine was up to temp, so I decided to go for an onramp pull. It wasn't raining, I had new rear tyres, not much power, and I was only flooring it in a straight line, so nothing would go wrong.:rolleyes:

Unfortunately the road was still a bit wet, the onramp was downhill and quite narrow. For a few seconds I was accelerating with full traction, still well short of the speed limit, then maybe the auto shifted gear or I hit some water or hit VTEC, and the rear stepped out to the right. I tried to catch it with the steering but I think I lifted completely off the throttle (I'm not experienced with RWD), and the car snapped back the other way. The back left corner of the car hit the concrete wall on the left side of the onramp, sending the car across into the barrier on the right. I hit that barrier squarely with the entire right side of the car. My side curtain airbags failed to deploy in the barrier impact, so my head whacked the driver's door window (cabin is pretty small). I managed to stop the car rebounding into anything else and I drove it home.

I could not sleep at all for the entire night. :pale:

I kept imagining the police were watching their highway cameras and they'd turn up at my door to arrest me for toxic masculinity. I was very annoyed at myself for crashing another classic car (even one with unfriendly handling).

Now what? I had no insurance, and the car might be uneconomical to repair privately, particularly if I'd done any mechanical damage when the RF and RR wheels hit the barrier. So I took it to get the wheel alignment checked, and apparently it was all fine. Jolly solid car / that's why it's so heavy.

I parked the car up and started looking for parts. For the longest time, nobody was wrecking an XJS except the absolute worst of TradeMe sellers. I'm talking guys so lazy that actually buying anything off them is like solving a puzzle.  I had been starting the Jag every few months and moving it back and forward, but still the tyres got square and the leather got mouldy and the car got dusty etc. :( I was tempted to abandon it and buy a more modern vehicle, but I eventually managed to get the bare minimum of B-grade parts to allow me to take the Jag to a panelbeater. I was worried that if I didn't get it back on the road in a somewhat timely manner, it would start to rust and degrade mechanically. The plan was to get it WOFable rather than presentable, so I could resume driving it.

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After running fine during Nats, the Jag has started doing its fuel-starvation-at-full-power thing again. :roll:

@h4nd had already pointed out that the commutator in my fuel pump had looked pretty worn. Here it is at 100% scale in the only photo which I hadn't already resized to low res:

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Looks like it has done 36 years of service. I guess all that missing copper was caught by the old fuel filter and isn't still inside my fuel system somewhere..

I bought a new fuel pump, which is supposedly for the XJS though it's slightly smaller and has a different style of terminal:

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Annoyingly, nothing changed! The problem is still present with the new fuel pump installed. This probably means that the old pump was never the cause in the first place, even before I performed the mod to stop its impeller housing spinning. :roll:

I'm still working under the assumption that the problem is caused by fuel starvation rather than by ignition, because surely if the coil was too weak to provide enough sparks at high rpm, there would be all kinds of backfires from the unburned fuel? My old Alfa would cut the spark to limit engine rpm, and when I hit that limiter too aggressively, it would just about blow the muffler apart.

I guess I could have a partial blockage anywhere between the pump and the injectors, or a problem with the fuel pressure regulator (which is controlled by manifold vacuum), or maybe the ECU is actually bringing in a rev limiter when it shouldn't.. I think I've noticed the rev counter spaz in the downward direction in response to the problem occurring, but generally you want to keep your eyes on the road when nearing redline, and you instinctively back off instantly if the engine starts doing strange stuff.

I still have the other issue of the engine not running smoothly at idle and low rpm - when you're under the bonnet you can detect an intermittent shaking of the motor like a partial misfire, up until the point where the rpms are high enough to mask it.

I don't know how to proceed with the diagnosis. Any ideas? Might have to take it to somebody who can actually measure stuff (exhaust CO, fuel pressure, injector duty cycle or whatever)?

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I changed the ignition coil to see if it had any effect. The one which was in the car looks to have been made in 1995. If it is a Lucas DLB198 coil as suggested by its mounting bracket, its secondary resistance was measuring below spec.

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The new coil is branded "Flame-Thrower", which sold me on it immediately. This should be its theme song.  :D

Anyway, it didn't make any difference. The car's intermittent stumbling idle remains, and its misfiring near peak power seems to be getting worse. I read a bunch of forum threads of other people who have tried to crack the bad idle problem with their AJ6 or AJ16 (the revised version of the same motor), and most people seem to test and change a bunch of stuff then give up (the threads just stop). I did find one thread where someone actually fixed it, and the problem in that case turned out to be several exhaust valves which weren't sealing well. :roll: The guy took the head off and got the valves reseated or reground or whatever, and then the car idled properly.

So.... I wonder if I could have some partially burnt valves or weak valve springs or worn cam lobes or something. I did another compression test today and got similar slightly-too-high readings (190, 183, 190, 180, 188 and 190psi) to the last compression test. Might be my gauge. The spark plugs looked fine. I gapped them down to factory spec, no improvement.

I have recently acquired a detailed factory document all about the engine management on the later 4.0 AJ6 which gained oxygen sensors (so many variants of this motor, grrr). The guide has taught me that my fuel tank vacuum pressure relief valve has no vacuum line connected to it:

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I don't know why there would be a valve if there's no vacuum line for it. Maybe it's for other markets / I hope the vacuum line isn't sitting somewhere disconnected and leaking air.

This new guide has given me a thousand things to check. For example, the ECU controls ignition timing and fuel mixture based on airflow and crank position, with a compensation factor for throttle position and coolant temp and air temp, and now I have a bunch of expected voltages and resistances and oscilloscope waveforms for all of this. I just need the motivation to spend weekends chasing my tail. :doubt:

 

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